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Quote: chapylad "And he`s still better than the 2 centres we have even at his age imo.'"


He's really not IMO, he's never been a decent centre, he's a much better full back.

One of our centres is the incumbent England Centre.

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Agree with all above, Mom and Newman have looked far more effective the last few games. Both in yardage and in Moms case creating a bit of space. We have been less flashy as a whole but more effective under Arthur.

If you look at his parra teams, they were built around big dominant packs, no doubt that’s where his focus will be, and I think we’ve already seen him get a bit more out of some previously underperforming pack members.

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Quote: christopher "He's really not IMO, he's never been a decent centre, he's a much better full back.

One of our centres is the incumbent England Centre.'"

That may be the case wrt Newman Chris.
But if he was at another club and became available I would hope we wouldn`t be throwing marque money at him that`s for sure.
He actually played well for England last time but has done nothing for us this year.

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With regards to Harry.
When I watched him playing in the academy at Leeds and also playing for England v the Aussie schoolboys, I thought at the time that we'd got a once in a generation type player at the club,Perhaps we still have, But that his injuries have hampered his progression?

But at present Harry isn't anywhere close to being as good as prime Senior or Watkins were at a similar age IMO and he's not even a stand out player in SL (Although he played for England during the last series)

Harry needs to full fill his undoubted potential at the club during his current contract otherwise i'm not sure that the club will re sign him on his alleged big salary

You can add Tommy the Tank into this too as he's never fit for selection, despite being the best academy prop in the country at the same time that Harry was the best centre

With respect to the time,effort and also the financial remuneration that the club have given them both.
Let's hope that we get the rewards of their undoubted talents rather than another SL club when their current contracts run out and they both go on to be sensational talents elsewhere

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Quote: The Biffs Back "With regards to Harry.
When I watched him playing in the academy at Leeds and also playing for England v the Aussie schoolboys, I thought at the time that we'd got a once in a generation type player at the club,Perhaps we still have, But that his injuries have hampered his progression?

But at present Harry isn't anywhere close to being as good as prime Senior or Watkins were at a similar age IMO and he's not even a stand out player in SL (Although he played for England during the last series)

Harry needs to full fill his undoubted potential at the club during his current contract otherwise i'm not sure that the club will re sign him on his alleged big salary

You can add Tommy the Tank into this too as he's never fit for selection, despite being the best academy prop in the country at the same time that Harry was the best centre

With respect to the time,effort and also the financial remuneration that the club have given them both.
Let's hope that we get the rewards of their undoubted talents rather than another SL club when their current contracts run out and they both go on to be sensational talents elsewhere'"

A lot of the criticism he gets is all framed around the "alleged big salary" but in reality that's just fan speculation. Now it might be that Harry is a designated marquee player, but if so it's only because only the first 25k of his salary would count on the cap. His wage won't be in anyway comparable to Brodie Croft's. Take the salary noise out of it and we've got a young lad who's had a bad run with injuries but who is still regarded as one of the best centres in the comp. In my dream world we'll sign Reagan Campbell Gillard on a whopping deal, and then we can have a justified moan if he doesn’t come up to scratch.

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Quote: ArthurClues "A lot of the criticism he gets is all framed around the "alleged big salary" but in reality that's just fan speculation. Now it might be that Harry is a designated marquee player, but if so it's only because only the first 25k of his salary would count on the cap. His wage won't be in anyway comparable to Brodie Croft's. Take the salary noise out of it and we've got a young lad who's had a bad run with injuries but who is still regarded as one of the best centres in the comp. In my dream world
Quote: ArthurClues "we'll sign Reagan Campbell Gillard on a whopping deal, and then we can have a justified moan if he doesn’t come up to scratch'"
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He would though, wouldn't he? He just would.

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Quote: YosemiteSam "He would though, wouldn't he? He just would.'"

He would, but despite the link with Arthur, it's just dreamland.

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Donaldson out

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Been a good servant to the club, never anything less than 100% committed. Time for a change though and good on him for taking the hard path into normal life when he could have carried on somewhere.

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Quote: Emagdnim13 "Donaldson out'"

Always gave 100%.
Certainly not the flashy type but a hard working full of commitment player.

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Can't fault the effort, we just have too many of the same to keep all and his contract is up first

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Talk of Oli Leyland signing for Wire next season.
I was hoping we could get him as he`s looked good every time I`ve seen him play for London, admittedly only seen him half a dozen times.
Still don`t see Frawley as the answer.

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Although Donaldson is 100 % effort and has been fine for us its definitely time for him to go, thanks for your effort but definitely go.

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Donno has carved a nice career out for himself and will be a credit to someone part-time player next year.

With respect though, I now wouldn’t play him over someone like TNW or Littlewood who will benefit for next year, especially with playoffs looking unlikely.

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I'm not sure why this was turned into an announcement. I'm pretty sure there's a long video from before the start of the season where Donaldson confirmed this year would be his last with Leeds?

I'd like to say thanks to Donaldson for what he's done at Leeds. Obviously not the most naturally talented or biggest forward, but someone who gives his all and deserves credit for everything he's achieved - over 100 games and a Challenge Cup win with Leeds, and almost 300 career games total. We might have been poor for most of his time with us, but he has been the least of our problems.

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