No I did not ask for links to opinions Eddie. I said I would be happy to respond to the dreaded experts you spoke of. You just gave me a list of articles and stated most were written by experts. I have pointed out that most were not written by experts just celebrities. The only so called experts all had serious flaws in their record of predictions hence I why their opinions are flawed.

How does anyone know what effect a Brexit would have on the health service or universities etc? This is pure speculation. And why would a doctor know any more than you about the economic effect and how would they have time to study this as I thought they say they work 70 hours a week. I guess some of these think they may lose their EU funding and fail to realise this is really our taxpayers money part returned anyway.

With regard to the Dandy I thought you should broaden your reading.

I am not doubting the number of bankers and fat cats that wish the status quo to remain as they and their 35,000 lobbyists in Brussels persude the unelected EU commissioners to fix the rules in their favour. This is at the heart of the problem. Vote Leave and claim back our soverienty before it is too late. You will live to regret it if you don't.

Quote: Juan Cornetto "I am not doubting the number of bankers and fat cats that wish the status quo to remain as they and their 35,000 lobbyists in Brussels persude the unelected EU commissioners to fix the rules in their favour. This is at the heart of the problem. Vote Leave and claim back our soverienty before it is too late. You will live to regret it if you don't.'" Oh look. George Soros has just said exactly what I've been saying, albeit in more detail. Speculation? Yes. All predictions are to some degree speculation, even yours. But Soros has long been the world's best speculator, with peerless knowledge of current and historical market dynamics, while you're stuck on bogus arguments about sovereignty. He also explains his case: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... orge-soros Pesky experts, or is it celebrities? By the way, I notice that they're only 'fat cats' when they're disagreeing with you. The few on your side of the argument are 'businessmen'.

Quote: Juan Cornetto "I am not doubting the number of bankers and fat cats that wish the status quo to remain as they and their 35,000 lobbyists in Brussels persude the unelected EU commissioners to fix the rules in their favour. This is at the heart of the problem. Vote Leave and claim back our soverienty before it is too late. You will live to regret it if you don't.'" Oh look. George Soros has just said exactly what I've been saying, albeit in more detail. Speculation? Yes. All predictions are to some degree speculation, even yours. But Soros has long been the world's best speculator, with peerless knowledge of current and historical market dynamics, while you're stuck on bogus arguments about sovereignty. He also explains his case: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... orge-soros Pesky experts, or is it celebrities? By the way, I notice that they're only 'fat cats' when they're disagreeing with you. The few on your side of the argument are 'businessmen'.

I am not surprised your wife doesn't want to listen to you with your views based on made up fear from the fat cats.

Soros is so powerful he can influence the market both by words and deed. If he decides he is going to sell short on a currency/company then the market/sheep will follow. It is all about his reputation and the laziness of his competitors.

Given the huge sums he is prepared to gamble you only need a small movement for him to make a fortune. You didn't need to be a genius to work out that tying the £ in the ERM would lead to a meltdown he just had access to more funds to prove the point that closer currency union with Europe is a disaster

bankers and fatcats like the TUC? GMB? Unison? CWU? NFU? Kofi Annan? Sir Stephen Hawking? Sir Tim Berners-lee?

There's only one person who's showing themselves to be a maniac on this thread, Re or otherwise.

Hahaha. Of all the blind bat things you've written in this thread, that one takes the cake. 'The risks are equal with the status quo'. Right. Nice use of 'flooding' linked to 'remainiacs' too. Sorry to mention Nigel again, but you make it unavoidable.

You'd better start hoping for a remain vote, and the maintenance of your EU reciprocal healthcare, because I think you need treatment, pal.

There are already people in The City poised to make a killing out of Brexit, if it happens. The *only* people in The City you talk to who are in favour of Brexit are the hedge fund managers who have established their positions and stand to make out like bandits. And those billions of capital leave the country via Zurich and the Caymans. Any of the actual wealth *creators* and Corporate Financiers in the City are firmly for Remain, because all their modelling, all their experience, all their highly paid experts with records in predicting the flow of capital are telling them what would happen both to the economy and the flow of money. And, like it or not, the international flow of money is a lot more impactful to our sovereignty and ability to make decisions than any number of EU laws.

We need to reclaim our democracy seems to be one of the brexit campaigns themes. Ironic when you consider we live in a country that has the House of Lords . Approximately 750 peers claiming £300 per day for just turning up.
None of these people elected by anyone. The leave campaigns assurance that coming out will not affect us too much is optimistic to say the least.
As someone remarked it's like divorcing your wife and thinking you can carry on having sex with her.
Whatever the outcome the Tory party will be fighting like hell over the next few years . Many working class people look like voting to leave. Chiefly on the basis of farages warnings on immigration , blissfully unaware he is one of the most right wing politicians in Britian.
Check out his plans for privatising the NHS , which he is currently backtracking on. Some good postings on this site from both sides of the argument . Better than some of the comments from people in the main broadsheet press.
Well done gentlemen and any female posters .
As for me i will be voting to remain , my main concern is the situation if the vote is extremely close. This would potentially cause a rift in the country for years to come.

I agree, and I particularly agree with the last part.

This is not directed at Juan or DHM or anyone else on this board, but elsewhere something ugly has been unleashed with this referendum and it's hard to see a certain portion of the Leave side accepting a Remain result quietly, and we've unfortunately seen the sort of thing that'll lead to. I also worry about who gets the blame and where the hate is directed in the event of a Leave victory and the promised milk and honey not materialising.

I fully expect a Remain victory (about 55%-45%?) come Friday. i just feel this will be a terrible waste of an opportunity to get some real reforms.

The EU has played a better game of "chicken" than anyone. They gave Cameron precisely zero in the way of concessions, because they didn't need to. But does anyone really believe that a Leave victory would have meant us exiting the EU? That is when the REAL negotiations would have started.

Does anyone truly believe the UK would be allowed to leave the EU? Germany would implode. Did the EU accept Ireland's vote in 2008? No, they renegotiated the Treaty of Lisbon & asked Ireland to have another go, & would have continued until they got the result they required (& this was Ireland - 43rd largest economy, not the world's 5th largest economy!).

The EU mandarins must be ing themselves at how easily manipulated we are. Job done.

Any of you Remainers up for a few hands of poker?