I thought the performace on Friday was the worst performace I had witnessed since we lost at Widnes in 2003.

What made it worse was thay you could see that Bradford was poor too, and we still couldn't beat them.

I would have expected a reaction against Salford, but obviously not.

The attack is predictable I agree there, we seem to be playing with a really deep attacking line, and just giving it through hands, there are no dummy runners or options for the half backs.

I've seen better attacking rugby in under 14 games.

there is no attack.it's just one out rugby.
the pack has been dominated and therefore we have so much more defence to do.
if we can get the forwards on top surely that will give the halves and backs the space to attack in and give us less defending to do

Yep thats the way I see it too. The likes of Gibson, Hall and Donald have been slated on here a bit recently but as you say the forwards arent giving them the space to work in.

Having said that from what I've seen (live TV games only I'm afraid) Ali and Peacock seem to be trying to go down the middle constantly. Peacock would be better mixing his game a bit and Ali always seems more dangerous running just inside the left centre.

Yeah id agree with that as well, but mostly there just appears to be a lack of energy/effort/urgency whatever you want to call it. Neither Leuluai, Peacock or JJB are running the ball in as aggressively as they can and none of the forwards are running support lines to help out the ball carrier.
Now whether we are knackered, injured or just lazy at the moment I dont know but somethings not right in the forwards.

Yes if you beat a team fair and square - if you think beating Canterbury was a great result so be it for me I enjoyed the defeat against Saints in 2007 elimination game more than the victory in the final - because both sides played to their potential in a high quality game - the finest game of that season by a mile.

Winning is not the be all and end all - quality of performance is - and that is what is disappointing it is not the defeats but the manner of the defeats.

winning in finals is what counts david. i don't want to be the best team, play some great stuff and lose. nobody remembers the losers.

i agree though that in league games its the performances that count.as tony smith rightly said,get that right and usually the result will follow

Success is not judged on quality of performances. Success is judged by trophies.

I love to see top quality RL but I'd rather win trophies.

4 years ago Craig Bellamy was and assistant to Bennett and had been for a number of years - nobody over here had ever heard of him - now he is reputed to be the best coach in the world.

My point is this you have to find the next Craig Bellamy and he will contribute significantly to this side. Where have Cummins, Poching, McDermott demonstrated their coaching ability in order to justify their positions - nowhere do you think other clubs would be looking at these guys as potential first team coaches - do you ever hear Cummins mentioned when a job comes up!!! Another example of GH's loyalty Daryl Powell when he quit the Leeds job were any other top sides after him - no why because he hadn't worked anywhere else. If Cummins or Poching went off to Australia to learn their trade at the top level no problem but this nepotistic appointment policy isn't healthy.

How many real top Aussies coaches have we had here Brian Smith - who revolutionised Bradford, Murray who did much the same at Leeds - we are talking top quality not the Sharps, Lances Rapers and Morgans of this world. We don't get the Bennett's, Bellamys and Sheens of this world here we don't even get the top assistants - why do you think we are so far behind the Aussies?

I thought the coaching staff have been several times down under to study latest coaching techniques plus they have twice to the US.
Also what makes you think a Stephen Kearny would come half way across the world to be a no2?
It didn't partially work well for Wigan when they appointed Farrar as an assistant

So once again you defeat your own argument. Why replace three guys who have done their job in two succesive GF's with a substandard junior level Aussie coach we know nothing about? If only the likes of Sheens and Bennett can make a difference then why?