Not a chance, we didnt treat him properly on his way out, we heaped a load of pressure on him as Captain when he wasnt ready mentally or physically it all just sounds like a made up rumour as were in the market for players.

Hardakers done. Ask leigh fans if they are bothered that he’s signed for Hull.

I still reckon we will sign 1x back row and 1x prop - maybe another project prop such as Eseh.

I don’t think we have cap or quota for anything more and I can’t see us moving anyone under contract on.

It does depend who is available though.

Why don't you think we will move on anyone under contract Jim? We have most of the pack out of contract at the end of 25, it wouldn't be a stretch to say to some of them you're not getting another contract, you can go talk to other clubs now if you like. Some will find new clubs on longer deals.

I can see Blease and Arthur (if he remains), being quite ruthless. Arthur doesn't strike me as being a person to keep someone in if he thinks they are garbage.

Thats a bare minimum at this point. He's going to have to be ruthless as weve too many players coasting / missfiring.

Whoever is coaching us next year needs to get a hold of these guys and start creating a better culture with regards to standards, ethos and accountability. Coach to put the standards in, Blease to drive this through. We also need to get the friging backroom staff sorted out and go out and bring in the very best we can in proven talent.

I could see both Sangare and Holroyd leaving at the end of the year

looked mint beginning of the other season Holroyd, not sure how its got to this point tbf but you could say that about a host of players ATM.

Holroyd seems like the front row version of jack Walker

Welcome mate. Cracking first post too.

I wouldn't be advocating signing him however hes made nearly 400m across the 2 games against leeds this year !
Numbers way ahead of our centres

Maybe however Jacks attitude seems way better than Holroyd imo

Despite thinking we had a genius new coach in 2022 taking us all the way to the Grand Final, I think the influence of getting Zak Hardaker back that year was immense and letting him go in 2023 in my opinion was criminal. Agree with previous posts though and that ship has well and truly sailed now. I've just looked at the 2022 GF team and we have since lost Richie Myler, Matt Prior, Zane Tetevano. The former 2 were excellent for Leeds and Zane was solid enough but suffered from having the Marquee Label around his neck. He was however tougher than what we have now.

Where do you get that from?

At the risk of repeating myself (!), when Holroyd came through he was arguably the best academy prop in the country. He has size, bit of pace over short distances, and is aggressive.

Has been daft as a brush at times, sometimes clumsy, and often injured. But he's also still young for a prop.

On here we keep banging on about getting the academy right, I don't think letting Holroyd go would be a step forward given the scarcity of front row talent. When he's been good, he's been very good. He does of course need to get and stay fit however. As a bench prop he still has lots to offer over and above most of our other options, but I do think we need to sign a new starting prop to partner Mik.

Fully agreed Jim. I think the problem with Holroyd and to a degree Mik, is that we've asked them to carry the back at such a young age. We desperately need an experienced head in there to steady the ship and take the pressure off those guys. With the quota situation, we have the opportunity to bring in two front rowers. One needs to be a proved NRL starter, and maybe the second can be a NSW cup up and coming prospect.