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Quote: KaeruJim "I'd love a third and fourth addition Clueso but where are they coming from with cap and quota restrictions?

What I don't think works is stacking the side out with the players we have been for almost a decade.

I also think we have issues at 7 (a few good performances doesn't make Frawley a title winning half back IMO), and at centre.

If we add a real high quality prop in the Mik+ bracket I think the trickle-down effect of that is significant, and I think some more power in the back row would help the props. It does depend who is available too of course in this market.'"



we definitely need 2 more ready made starting props and one back rower that's our priority for 25. we also don't need projects squad fillers,and also need to offload some of the sick notes. the amount of players sat in the stands is killing our cap space

Fusitua -get rid
Donaldson - don't resign
Hudson- not played game get rid
warren not played a game - get rid
Max Simpson not played for 2 years - get rid
Gannon- talent but too injury prone one more year to prove he can hack it injurie wise or get rid.

Holdroyd- does not play enough -see out contract or get rid if cannot stay fit

Ruane great prospect - should be given game time with us not loaned out. hopefully his run at Hull is successful if he cannot break into that side then get rid.

A few others as well Newman needs to stay fit and start performing.

don't know what that equites to cap wise but that's at least 8 players (including martin) that could be gone and replace with 3-4 first choice starters.

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Quote: Simmo71 "It really is the same post every time... Probably true but the hypocrisy is pretty breathtaking from the RS out brigade honestly! I'll try to be less repetitive.

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Coming back to the topic, what we need in the first round of recruitment are a pair of Kylie Leuluai’s and a young Adrian Morley. Once we sort the pack out, the halves and backs will look better without recruitment there. If we only add three or four players in the coming off season, they all need to be starting quality forwards.

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Quote: Seth "Oh I do Jim, for coming through and surviving years of personal hell, for an amazing young family, a brilliant job and supportive people in my life. My feelings about the rhino's though are nothing to do with positivity but assessing and commenting on what's there and has been in pain sight for years, not just some blind faith.

When i see something that merits positive optimism i comment accordingly, when i see something that merits the opposite i also comment accordingly, its just how i am. I get that continual negativity is a bit tiresome but its all theres been evidence for for so long. Blind optimism in the face of the opposite is just as tiresome too though, 'insisting the sky is blue when its clearly not'.'"

I don't have blind optimism Seth, I teach post graduate critical thinking for a living.

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Quote: batleyrhino "Coming back to the topic, what we need in the first round of recruitment are a pair of Kylie Leuluai’s and a young Adrian Morley. Once we sort the pack out, the halves and backs will look better without recruitment there. If we only add three or four players in the coming off season, they all need to be starting quality forwards.'"


Ah but no Fruit on the Kylie tree this year...

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Eseh jnr has signed for Hull for the rest of the season

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Quote: KaeruJim "Probably true but the hypocrisy is pretty breathtaking from the RS out brigade honestly! I'll try to be less repetitive.'"


Its not hypocrisy though is it when the R.S out brigade could see what was happening and were proved correct , whilst your optimism was so far from the mark along with Chris we thought you were Smith in disguise

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Quote: KaeruJim "I don't have blind optimism Seth, I teach post graduate critical thinking for a living.'"

Critical thinking is what lead me to my less than positive predictions about RS and the teams plight , maybe i need a change of career icon_wink.gif

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Quote: ploinerrhino "Its not hypocrisy though is it when the R.S out brigade could see what was happening and were proved correct , whilst your optimism was so far from the mark along with Chris we thought you were Smith in disguise'"

I get accused of repeating myself, and yet almost nobody listens to what I actually say... hiding to nothing this board!

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Quote: Seth "Critical thinking is what lead me to my less than positive predictions about RS and the teams plight , maybe i need a change of career Like many on here, maybe you should go for the possibly vacant Rhinos coaching job... to be fair you couldn't be too much worse!

All entitled to opinions mate. I'm not even sure myself, I swing between thinking just a few key signings will make a huge difference, to wondering whether half the squad is actually good enough. I've been shaking my head a lot at some of the garbage dished out by this team this season. This board though could do much better dealing with each other when we have different opinions. Some can and some can't seem to.

Eseh to Hull is slightly surprising, but I guess Wigan mind him signing for Hull, well outside the play-offs, than a potential competitor. I mean that is a slightly ironic statement.

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How did Eseh go with you guys? Looking forward to seeing him play for us as rated him at Wakefield. Couple big bodies added for us - badly needed

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Jack Smith to Bulls till end of season.

Kieran Hudson to Fax till end of season.

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Quote: Irregs#16 "How did Eseh go with you guys? Looking forward to seeing him play for us as rated him at Wakefield. Couple big bodies added for us - badly needed'"


Steady away. Did what was needed.

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Quote: Irregs#16 "How did Eseh go with you guys? Looking forward to seeing him play for us as rated him at Wakefield. Couple big bodies added for us - badly needed'"

I`m in the minority here as I thought he did ok especially with his aggression in defence.
He could have made more yards for a prop but we are not entirely blessed with good yardage makers amongst our front row with the exception of Oledzki who has little aggression in defence!!

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Quote: Irregs#16 "How did Eseh go with you guys? Looking forward to seeing him play for us as rated him at Wakefield. Couple big bodies added for us - badly needed'"

Not impressed, personally. Good athlete, likes to try to offload, but error prone, and has a pretty low work rate

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