Seem to have an agenda with that post.

It’s not true either, he played against Huddersfield

Sorry, bar that and the appearances he's had it doesn't amount to much. He certainly comes down the pecking order for criticism.

Like i told you yesterday at full strength we wouldnt win here many times. Saints are different gravy.

Some soft tries. Only Myler coming out with any credit in that half. Too many young players in team for this opponent but there woll be long term benefit from seeing standard required at top level.

Saints are too big, too fast and make very few errors for us tonight.

This needs saying: Saints are a great side hell bent on giving someone a hiding. Unfortunately tonight it is us. Here at the ground and it's painful to watch, however I can't argue it's not value for money. As for Leeds, first set sums it up: woeful pass from Dywer on tackle three or four followed by failure to get a kick in by our half. Need to give yourself half a chance. Walters does look a tad cumbersome, but then he always will at his height. Needs to stop tackling with his arms. Fair play to Dywer for getting the try. He's flaws are obvious but his effort and commitment never less than 100 per cent.

It possibly shows that not making the playoffs might not be all that bad an idea, were simply not going to compete with the amount of pivotal players we have out unfortunately

I'll reserve judgement til I see what's offered up second half but there's a couple of performances tonight bad enough to put you off a player for their entire career

Swings and roundabouts really - iI still think we’ll qualify but not get far.

Said it before but this team desperately needs to get into camp and have a really solid pre-season. The young lads need to put some hard graft into conditioning and the whole team needs to find some shape and rhythm. Given that we’ll be right up there next year.

Yeah agenda is I’ve seen enough of Cameron smith to know he’s utter e and would struggle to get a game a Fev

Why do we persist with going down the short side on exit sets.

But you mentioned Daniel smith and anybody called Smith in your initial post?

No issue if you don’t rate Smith, we are all allowed our views on players but saying he is rubbish, his brother is rubbish and anybody called Smith is rubbish seems a bit ridiculous to me.

I don't know why we don't just try a high kick or a chip over on the last. Saints are starting their sets on half way anyway

on or off the pitch

Don’t reflect on the performance in relation to those missing but rather those on the pitch, regardless of any result it’s way below par.