When isn't he?. If he is fit would you really give him Keinhorsts spot? or a bench place over lilley would be an option I suppose.

Keinhorst was great last night.Put some crunching hits in at a time when most of the players were gassed. He deserves a shirt at OT after missing out at Wembley he has definitely contributed more than Achurch this season.

Tbh I'd rather have Lilley on the bench simply as injury cover for 6/7/9. That's how little Achurch has contributed this year.

But, what if Delaney's injured, does Walters get in?

it will just be a second bench spot Mcdermott won't use,no matter who takes it

Stevie Ward is having terrible luck I hope the lad is not out too long

thought our bench was very weak last night. needs to be stronger next week but not sure it can be

Don't let JP hear you calling him weak

i meant keinhorst and lilley as you well know

Not a lot else McDermott can do in terms of team selection. The 17 on duty last night were arguably the strongest available, although you could maybe argue a case for Mulhern or Walters ahead of Lilley.

Unless someone is going to come back next week, I'd think it will be same again.

oh I agree andy, but I still think it's a weak bench

It is much weaker than it should be. Missing Aiton, JJB,Ward,Sutcliffe and likely Delaney are big losses for us. With Wigan likely do their usual tactic it will make it very hard for us. Just got to hope Peacock etc get a good rest this week and Garbutt/Burrow have another stomer

Speaking of play off semis against St Helens, the club has posted the highlights of the 2005 game at Knowsley Road, the one with Ali's try.

Wellens really was an amazing fullback when you see how little pace he had.

I watched it back, and I think the amount of pace Ali has, rather than the lack of pace from Wellens is the most striking aspect.

Managed a nice little 30 yard amble off an interception this afternoon, rolling back the years