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Quote: krisleeds "Sangare, the French Chris Feather.'"

More of a Feather duster!

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In fantasy world I'd get two aggressive props, a powerful second row and keep Martin. Would not be upset at all to lose Donaldson, Bentley, Sangare, Lisone and Goudemand to make room. I know people talk about Bentley's strengths, but they will only really work if he's part of a big pack, as he was at Sts, and I'd rather keep Martin if have the choice. The others listed just aren't good enough for the first 17.

Some others need to be on notice. Holroyd for one, although its easy to forget that despite being around for a while he really hasn't played a lot. But he needs to show he can get to a decent standard and stay there. I'm particularly disappointed by his lack of impact with the ball. He's massive, and yet like so many of our forwards he gets stopped dead in the tackle.

Another one, who I'll take stick for, is Cam Smith. Making a lot of tackles doesn't make up for being neither a good link man or a battering ram forward, which is what good sides have in their 13. Hopefully a new coach can find a way to make him work, because in too many games he looks like a Championship player.

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No point judging many in our current squad especially the new signings until we gave a new head coach, lets see how the likes of Frawley Sangare and a fair few others go with a proper coach. Bar about 3 players the whole side gas been shocking all season, and thats why we are currently coach less

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I get that, but while some issues such as linespeed can be fixed by a different approach, lack of size and power is so fundamental you cannot fix it with just telling players to run harder. Someone like Sangare or Holroyd may be a much better player under a different coach, but no amount of coaching will let Donaldson, Goudemand, Bentley or McDonnell to break tackles or make a lot of yards post contact.

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I think everyone agrees on what the pack needs. It's just going to be a case of who is available and can/ are we willing to pay for it.

A backrow of Bentley /Gannon / Mcdonnell/ Ruan / looks less of an issue if we can add some real power to the front row and fix the defence issues/ RS game plan

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Wasn’t there talk a couple of months back about that prop Josh papalii ffrom the raiders being close to completion or does that now depend on if new coach wants him ?

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Quote: rhinosTY "Wasn’t there talk a couple of months back about that prop Josh papalii ffrom the raiders being close to completion or does that now depend on if new coach wants him ?'"


Last I read in the Aussie media was that he was doing another year at Canberra in 2025 and then retiring

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You've got to be careful with those power props. A peak Papali'i would tear up SL. But once the power drops even a bit they can quickly become passengers. Tapau tipped over the edge like that a few years ago, about the time some fans were saying we should sign him.

If we get a coach who really knows the NRL, we might be better off with what seem like fringe players.

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Yep hard truth is we can't afford genuinely good NRL props in good form - although said it before but Mitch Garbutt was a really good signing at the time. I thought he was up there with the best props in the whole competition for a couple of years.

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Quote: rhinosTY "Wasn’t there talk a couple of months back about that prop Josh papalii ffrom the raiders being close to completion or does that now depend on if new coach wants him ?'"


I think he's well passed his best if I'm honest but could still be very useful over here.. depends on his attitude - he may be able to do a good 3 seasons here if he's up for it.

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Quote: KaeruJim "Yep hard truth is we can't afford genuinely good NRL props in good form - although said it before but Mitch Garbutt was a really good signing at the time. I thought he was up there with the best props in the whole competition for a couple of years.'"
He had some very good games for us and some he looked uninterested.I seem to remember rumours of being a poor trainer and disruptive in the dressing room.

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Quote: KaeruJim "Yep hard truth is we can't afford genuinely good NRL props in good form - although said it before but Mitch Garbutt was a really good signing at the time. I thought he was up there with the best props in the whole competition for a couple of years.'"
He had some very good games for us and some he looked uninterested.I seem to remember rumours of being a poor trainer and disruptive in the dressing room.

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Yes I think he had an interesting character off the field!

It is very very hard to find and retain high quality imports these days (although again Saints and Wigan seem to have managed this way better than Leeds).

We need to give players like Holroyd time and resources, because if he can fulfil more of his early promise he's a really valuable asset. I still think there is a player in him but he does need the right coach I think to get stuck into him.

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I really rated Holroyd when he burst on to the scene and he did pretty well in the England Academy.
He seemed to go off the boil after his sending off whilst playing for Bradford.
Maybe someone told him he needs to curb his aggression and its affected his game.

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