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| Should we be looking at say 2 mini leagues of 8 to be played home and away =14 games.
Top 3 in each league play home and away =10 games
Top 2 play in the GF.
That leaves the other 10 teams to maybe do something similar i.e straight knockout or another mini league and play on the same day as the GF for the GF Plate.
You would then be including 4 Championship teams based on the IMG gradings such as Wakefield, Bulls, Toulouse.
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| The 2005 WCC against Canterbury came up on my YouTube feed, so I watched it for the first time in a long time. Honestly, the speed of the ruck and lack of wrestling made for a far more entertaining product. They could improve the product in a few weeks by getting the wrestling out of the game and speeding up the ruck.
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| I think the only way to even partly achieve that would be to ban more than 2 players in the tackle. Otherwise how do you judge? Players are coached to let the attacking player make short yards after impact, but slow them down as they do it, and ideally flip them on their back to slow the PTB further. Judging when a tackle is complete is difficult when they do that - the only way I can see it is to reduce the strength advantage of multiple tacklers.
Reducing the number of teams is a really bad idea. There's not enough variation as it is. I'd forget these weekends off for the cup except the final as well, the season is far too disjointed.
Just my view, but I think for the good of the sport the SL teams need to be in the CC earlier, and maybe even try to fix the draw to make them play lower league sides (seeded draw maybe). The cup isn't worth squat as it is, and it would give lower league fans a chance to see SL sides, or visit SL grounds. Wouldn't people rather have a cup tie at Whitehaven or have Dewsbury visit than yet another game against a SL side?
Who knows, we might even win a game.....
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| You're right about the cup. I'd even consider having a group stage format, which would force SL teams teams to play lower league teams. I'd also fix the draw/format so that SL teams had to play any lower league team away from home.
As for policing the number of people in the tackle. I'm not sure it needs to be that complicated. Just penalise teams for slowing it down like they did for decades. Hopefully, the new rules next season will help eliminate some of the grappling.
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| I'm sure I'm being naive, but a three second count once momentum is halted should work - it's the defenders' responsibility to clear the ruck within that time or get penalised. If the attacking player wins the tackle they can play it more quickly.
Some refs allow so much lying on it's crazy. Just have to same count for each side and police it consistently. There is so much advantage to be had with ruck speed either way that it is always going to be a refereeing job.
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| You'd need a second ruck ref, didn't they try that in nrl ?
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| Quote: Emagdnim13 "You'd need a second ruck ref, didn't they try that in nrl ?'"
They did. We don't have enough quality refs as it stands, never mind doubling the requirement per game.
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| The 2nd Ref. was just like another touch judge who managed the off-side line.
Now that all games are streamed/televised we could get rid of the in-goal touch judges, and use one of them to be utilised as the second referee.
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| INOUT Quote: KaeruJim "I'm sure I'm being naive, but a three second count once momentum is halted should work - it's the defenders' responsibility to clear the ruck within that time or get penalised. If the attacking player wins the tackle they can play it more quickly.
Some refs allow so much lying on it's crazy. Just have to same count for each side and police it consistently. There is so much advantage to be had with ruck speed either way that it is always going to be a refereeing job.'"
Might be an unfair judgement but do they allow too much time in the ruck so that they can catch a breath when struggling to keep up with the pace of the game! Maybe an extra official would help but with one ref currently the quality is mixed so increasing the number won't necessarily improve the situation
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| INOUT Quote: KaeruJim "I'm sure I'm being naive, but a three second count once momentum is halted should work - it's the defenders' responsibility to clear the ruck within that time or get penalised. If the attacking player wins the tackle they can play it more quickly.
Some refs allow so much lying on it's crazy. Just have to same count for each side and police it consistently. There is so much advantage to be had with ruck speed either way that it is always going to be a refereeing job.'"
Might be an unfair judgement but do they allow too much time in the ruck so that they can catch a breath when struggling to keep up with the pace of the game! Maybe an extra official would help but with one ref currently the quality is mixed so increasing the number won't necessarily improve the situation
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| I honestly don’t think it should be beyond one referee to count to three…
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| True bit you'd also think they notice the same players / teams using it as a deliberate tactic by now
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| Any transfer or rumours? Sharky?
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| Quote: RAPIDO "Any transfer or rumours? Sharky?'"
I was about to come on this morning with a little something. I haven’t had much to be fair and I haven’t really pushed for it with everything going on at the club. Brad Arthur is very close to becoming our new coach however he does have stipulations that he wants to change the team and wants new faces. So as in player transfers, nothing has really happened. Rhyse Martin is very hush hush aswell. Sorry guys not much to report. It’s been a very sad few weeks, so let’s hope we can get some good news back in.
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| Quote: sharky64 "I was about to come on this morning with a little something. I haven’t had much to be fair and I haven’t really pushed for it with everything going on at the club. Brad Arthur is very close to becoming our new coach however he does have stipulations that he wants to change the team and wants new faces. So as in player transfers, nothing has really happened. Rhyse Martin is very hush hush aswell. Sorry guys not much to report. It’s been a very sad few weeks, so let’s hope we can get some good news back in.'"
Thanks for this.
Whomever the new coach will be, I do get nervous at the hint of wholesale changes to the first team. While I would agree new faces are needed, this is something that neither Agar nor Smith managed well, leaving a roster of contracted players to hamstring the next person in the hot seat.
About half of Smith's tenure was blighted by disruption caused by players unhappy that they weren't wanted or didn't want to play certain positions, from the bench or not be captain (etc), and a handful we wanted to move on but couldn't - including some signed by Smith too (Olpherts as a case in point).
Hopefully the new coach will be honest enough to be transparent with all the playing staff as early as possible so that any ongoing disruption is minimised and does not cast too much of a shadow over the 2025 season.
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