Does this game count as one of the set of 6 defeats in any 10 games that will see him surgically removed?

Well obviously you care enough to post

The result is worrying and the performance sounds crap. What really matters is how we perform in the league games. Plenty of our better missing so no cause for alarm just yet.

As for people spending money and being disappointed, surely the team Leeds had out was no worse than previous seasons. Its always been a chance for fringe players to have a game whilst the top players can relax over the Xmas period.

In seasons gone by our weak team was still enough to beat wakey, or cas before them, but maybe this shows how much weaker we are these days

Regarding McDermott, is it just to sack him if the squad he's been given is weak.

So how long do you accept mediocrity - indefinitely because of his past history?

If a club of Leeds stature cannot get the next Trent Robinson from the NRL then something is seriously wrong. If this job became available Leeds would be inundated with potential suitors. The question is can the club spot the gem or will they appoint John Kerr or Mark Aston?

so there are undoubtedly better coaches out there, and they may be able to get more from the squad, you can't polish a turd, as Bennett showed over the autumn.

For what it's worth I think McDermott should have stepped aside / moves upstairs at some point. A team needs new ideas and to be taken out of their comfort zone ever so often.

The new coach coming in would need to be quality though, because he wouldn't have a great squad to work with

But not enough to pay £18 to have the p1ss taken out of me

who's your gem of a coach to take over from mac?
i will email gary of your response sal and see if he is interested

Arguably not, but only if McD hadn't had a key hand in building this (weak) squad. Agree that his post-match comments were poor, but he'll be given half a dozen matches in the season proper (at least) on the strength of his history at the club. After that, if we're bottom 3 (?) the view from the SS will be made fairly unequivocally.

If this was 2015, I wouldn't be worried. After such a poor season in 2016 it would have been nice to see some green shoots of recovery, NOT one of the worst Boxing Day friendly results (and, by all accounts, performances) since the move to summer rugby.

Of course, there's not much point reading much into this. At worst it piles on more pressure on the coach and players, and has upset some fans who in all probability will buy season tickets anyway (even if I lived up north, the Boxing Day game long ceased to be worthwhile attending). It will be interesting to see how the other friendlies go, assuming there are some.

that is a far higher calibre coach than i would be expecting should mac go

A decent amateur coach would have us playing to more of a game plan than this fraudster. Sacked by Easter? Fingers crossed.