Lat time I heard that was in my school playground and I was 11. Grow up.

I think we'll still make the 8, but for me thats not good enough, at the moment i'd be happy with 6th, but will look back at the end of the season if we did finish 6th and think thats been a crap season, releasing biff and cross was always going to hurt us and its proving so now as we have no real options in the forwards.

Nat has been saying it a while now, i'm going to say it now lets get wilson in,in the centre, he's got to be a better option than abbo and smith, both are good players but just arent centres. I'd like to see mcshane get more game time even if that was to be at scrum half.

Today we had no idea what to do with or without the ball, and thats down to the coach because its been like that all season, i'm struggling to say anything positive about anyones performance, at a push despite get sin binned delaney worked his socks off. Mc's handling of the interchanges was absolute joke, 9 inside 50 mins!!

He really doesn't help himself does he. Raised the eyebrows at JP taken off after 12 mins with Kylie not far behind.

We must have the slowest centre pairing in SL.

Only thing we don't lack at the moment is commitment but aside from that.....woeful

Lets' see if he has the balls to respond eh?

I agree with that plenty of commitment, but plenty of brain dead ill discipline to go with that still mc will get that out of them, he said he would by round 5 in pre-season, i've realised now that he probably meant round 25

GH needs to act quick.

We need some good news, either/or both of McDermott out or some exciting new signings announced for next year as opposed to the likes of the recent news of contract extensions for our already ageing/past their best players.

IF GH keeps McDermott and doesn't announce any MAJOR new signings for next year then he won't have to worry about how to accommodate all of the 6000 or so South Stand season ticket holders for next year as many i'm sure will vote with their feet if we have this coach and pretty much the same squad to look forward to.

The best thing that has happened for Leeds Rhinos so far this year, is the failure of Leeds Utd to get promoted to the Premiership.

Our four props were outstanding again.

Oh.

Indeed.

Just waiting on Bailey to sign a contract extension now.

Oh dear.

well obviously you have looked it up,but when I said 2000,it was a skit at all the band wagon jumper's post 84,dont tell me it was over 4000 in the year you were relegated and the year after,but like Admiral said we know we are now poop ,but we were never relegated

Call the Wiganer's bandwagoners or whatever you like but when they nearly got relegated the other year their attendances stayed very strong if not went up. They may get on my t1ts but the people of Wigan love their RL.