Alibert for me has gone from an inept clown to one of the best in Superleague, still not a high standard granted but he's improved non the less.

If that was a knock on, we have a rule in SL which is literally impossible to adhere to.

Which rule is that?

Maybe that grunt, effort and hard work is all good but it also needs to be polished with some smart play and decisions. Clutching at more straws and trying to hang McDermott with his everyword. I thought he spoke well as he often does, you carry on though I know who I think sound like the clueless ones

Let's not kid ourselves refs and officials can get away with very bad games without any come back at all. All cummins will do is make excuses for them. Managers are scared to say anything against them as all that happens, even if they are right is a fine

The drop kick rule. The idea that the ball can be kicked at the exact moment it hits the floor rests only on the level of minutiae we are prepared to measure it to. As that level is undefined it is simply impossible to rule on and as such impossible to adhere to.

I know from experience that officials can and will be reprimanded for big mistakes, especially those made in front of the SKY cameras.

Like I said in another thread, I don't want to dwell on that incident because in the context of our season it does not matter a jot.

McGuire's was nowhere near simultaneous and Ganson exercised his discretion correctly.

I personally think you are cluching at straws and clueless if you think that's what he means. And regulary speaks well???

Are you Brian mcdounuts missus?

I fully agree there but I do think it asks a lot of questions about how we are/should be using the video ref...what if it had been a grand final?!?

Fair enough being a ref you will know better than me and most of us on here.

I agree don't think the decision matters particulary in our season. But from the outside looking in there seems to be no consequence to poor performances from refs and officials

One thing's for sure - all captains should be politely asking the ref to go to the video in the event of an important drop goal in a televised game!

I agree, it is a funny procedure.

It's interesting that the VR doesn't look at forward passes because the cameras give angles which can give a warped perspective of the play, yet the RFL are happy to go with a TJ's 'warped perspective'. IMO if we can judge a knock on with a camera we can also judge forward passes.

mainly because simultaneous doesnt exist other than the level we are prepared to measure it to. If that was a drop goal attempt you wouldnt be arguing it should be ruled out for a knock on. In fact it would be a text book example of a drop kick. The fact it wasnt is irrelevant. There was less than a frame between the ball hitting the ground and Mcguires foot touching it, to expect referees to judge (and in most cases with the naked eye) between that not being a drop kick ( his foot touch is it first) and it being a knock on (it hitting the ground first) makes it simply impossible to adhere to. Nobody in the history of the world has had the dexterity to hit the ball at the exact moment it hits the ground, nobody in the history of the world has the ability to judge it.

If Mcguires was a knock on, we cannot, as people, adhere to that rule. We are simply as a kicker and a referee, guessing.

It took Ganson 2 minutes of slow motion for him to be confident the ball hit the ground first, that should have told him the correct answer.