Your last point exactly. It's been happening all season but was beyond ridiculous on Saturday. With a clear plan and some structure I'm confident we'll see a completely different Miller with ball in hand.

Miller is excellent at returning the ball and has some xfactor about him, he will turn out to be an excellent signing imo.

Totally agree about Saturday

Theres FAR bigger problems in that team than Fullback or Miller in particular.

Totally agree

Kaeru - I'm not suggesting picking teams full of teenagers every week. i'm talking about a planned approach to getting them experience. Ten minutes at the fag-end of a game won't give anybody a chance to develop or show how good they are. I'm more than ready to wait and move to the next generation if they don't prove up to it, but these lads currently deserve a chance because the 'senior' forwards are frankly awful as a unit.

The prime case is actually Jack Sinfield. I wouldn't do it vs Leigh as there's too much emotion, but after that I'd give him a minimum of five games as starter, and only not pick him if he's injured. We'll never know if he's good enough if he doesn't get picked or plays a few minutes off the bench or only gets a game against London. This isn't driven by nostalgia or his name. Its about having a supposedly high quality junior, who has played a handful of games in almost three seasons, and needing to find out if he's got it or not. If he is, great. If not we need to be brutally honest and move him on. But right now does anyone have any clarity about how good he really is or might be? Should we really keep picking Frawley because he can tackle?

I would consider moving Frawley to centre, when (not if) we have injuries there rather than pulling Martin out of the pack. Defensively he is solid, he can run with the ball and must be able to pass given he's supposedly a halfback. That would allow Sinfield to develop.

Aussie Media linking Brad Arthur with the Leeds job. Whether they are just jumping on the bus I’m not sure.

There's a lot of square pegs and round holes discussions going on on here these days. That tells me that we still have a massive amount of work to do with the squad and the quality of player we have.

Coaching is a major problem for us, but it's far from the only one.

Jenna brooks also mentioned Arthur was interested in coming to SL on sky this weekend. Would be an excellent appointment considering what he did at Parra. Disappointed we haven't heard Rohan hasn't been sacked yet.

The source in the Fox League article is Total Rugby League. So it's not happening.

Sam Eseh Jnr from Wigan on loan

7 first teamers out with concussion, only one went off for HIA last week (and passed, newman) wtf is going on behind the scenes? Is this all due to the stevie ward legal case?

Sam Eseh Jr makes sense, but baffled that we were in for Jake Connor. Yes, an amazing player on his day, but not exactly the type of personality you'd want around an underconfident underperforming team. Strikes of enormous desperation.

If there was a concussion league table (I'd love to see one) we'd be top of the league and uncatchable by now. Hard to escape the conclusion that we are measuring this in a very different way.