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| I'd be OK if we kept him, he's a good player, but not at any price and I think we could improve the pack with his quota spot.
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| I'm in agreement. Take away his goal kicking and I would be even less bothered.
We really could do with a big 2nd row to work alongside our more workmanlike other backrow options.
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| Quote: rugbyleague88 "I'm in agreement. Take away his goal kicking and I would be even less bothered.
We really could do with a big 2nd row to work alongside our more workmanlike other backrow options.'"
Cam Smith carts it up sometimes but I think a bigger back rower would take some pressure off the props - AND we need higher impact props. We have good workhorse options in Bentley and McDonnell.
Again, we are potentially very strong in the juniors at back row, there are probably three or four lads who look good enough for potential first graders to me, so we can afford to let a couple go and bring one OS player in for a year or two IMO.
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| Yep, I want a big 2nd row to take the pressure off the props a little.
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| He's a good player, and a world class goal kicker, but I wouldn't be breaking the bank to keep him.
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| Just need the props to go with a hard running backrower.
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| Quote: KaeruJim "But we can't keep every player no matter the price. I'm sure we'd love to retain Martin at £x, but if he's worth significantly more to someone else then sometimes you shrug your shoulders.
I think he's been a really good signing, he's Mr Consistent, a good personality and fantastic goal kicker.
What he isn't though is the dominant middle/edge that I think Leeds need. Our entire go-forward can't just depend on two big lads on the pitch at a given time. The whole pack needs to work as a more dominant unit, and Martin is more of a chunky back row/centre than an outright physical animal.
Also we need to consider his age and whether his best years might be behind him.
He is one of those players that's very 50-50 for me
If he stays - at the right price - it's a good thing. If he goes it's an opportunity to really add some oomph to the pack. The complication is the goal kicking. Could Sinfield be ready by next year? I don't know. I do know that we don't have another natural goal kicker at the club.
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| Marc Sneyd, fill the goal kicking gap and replace Frawley, also freeing up a quota spot.
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| Quote: ArthurClues "If he stays - at the right price - it's a good thing. If he goes it's an opportunity to really add some oomph to the pack. The complication is the goal kicking. Could Sinfield be ready by next year? I don't know. I do know that we don't have another natural goal kicker at the club.'"
Going up in 6's rather than 4's makes a huge difference.
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| I would like to think that we will have reasonable room to move for next season. It looks certain that Fus is leaving (big cap space) and that others will create room (Olpherts, Donaldson). If Martin does go, whilst a loss that would be more cap space too. I think Blease will also look to shift some of those coming to their final year like Frawley, Bentley & Sangare, assuming better players are available.
Then we need to replace with players who wouldn't be out of place at the top level, so all likely starters, unless he thinks Sinfield will be ready to replace Frawley by next March.
I can see quite a turnaround on both the coaching and playing side at the end of the year, but no movement on either before then.
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| Quote: KaeruJim "But we can't keep every player no matter the price. I'm sure we'd love to retain Martin at £x, but if he's worth significantly more to someone else then sometimes you shrug your shoulders.
I think he's been a really good signing, he's Mr Consistent, a good personality and fantastic goal kicker.
What he isn't though is the dominant middle/edge that I think Leeds need. Our entire go-forward can't just depend on two big lads on the pitch at a given time. The whole pack needs to work as a more dominant unit, and Martin is more of a chunky back row/centre than an outright physical animal.
Also we need to consider his age and whether his best years might be behind him.
He is one of those players that's very 50-50 for me
Spot on Jim. my sentiments too. I think Blease will quickly realise he's got a hell of a lot of work to do with recruitment and salary cap balancing - Smith has had more misses that hits so far but, some of those under performers may be down to poor coaching - who knows.. I can see Ryse leaving unless he's happy earning less that what Leigh offer. But, we cannot underestimate his value as a world class goal kicker, it's worth a lot of points.
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| It will be interesting to see how Gannon comes back, he's got a whole season to train and bulk up. I've always been a big fan, if he can put the concussions behind him and comeback as a real bruiser he could be a huge asset.
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| Quote: Broadacres "It will be interesting to see how Gannon comes back, he's got a whole season to train and bulk up. I've always been a big fan, if he can put the concussions behind him and comeback as a real bruiser he could be a huge asset.'"
He's been a big loss. Huge talent imo.
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| Martin might just end up being a casualty of other recruitment decisions being poor. He brings a lot - speed, consistency and goal kicking - but what we desperately lack in the pack is the one thing he doesn't bring, which is physical presence. I can't see us getting the sort of big boppers we need in England so we may have to sacrifice him to free up a quota spot.
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| RS saying today Martin has been offered a deal - it's something Blease will be sorting from next week onwards so he's yet to take it as it stands.
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