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Quote: KaeruJim "Funnily enough I fancy us for Saints too. Holroyd should be raring to go - I don't know if he's been fully fit all year, and this enforced absence with concussion might have done him the world of good actually. A fit Holroyd makes our pack much stronger (if he can keep his discipline).

If Croft is back, he makes a huge difference to us too - said before but I think he's worth 1-2 tries every game just through his assists.

If Newman is back, again we have that extra strike in the back line and some physicality.

RS needs to get the selection right but we're a definite chance. We also have 2 weeks to prepare for this game with the CC being a distraction, and we have revenge in mind after them turning us over twice at HQ. I reckon we should go well.

I'm praying for Papali'i at the moment, I think he'd be a real good addition if we can land him.'"

Croft and Newman returning would definitely strengthen us, but they have played in the majority of our games and we are amongst the lowest try scorers in the competition.
We have struggled to rack up decent scores all season and i dont see that changing against Saints whether Croft is back or not.

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Quote: The Magic Rat "[listCroft and Newman returning would definitely strengthen us, but they have played in the majority of our games and we are amongst the lowest try scorers in the competition.
We have struggled to rack up decent scores all season and i dont see that changing against Saints whether Croft is back or not.'"


True, but so have Saints theyve only scored a lot against the bottom teams, unfortunately they don’t let many in either.

It’s a winable game though

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For us to beat Saints at Saints, we need to score more points than they do. I don't really see that happening because they attack better than we do, and they defend better than we do. We would need at least one of those last statements to change for us to be successful there.

I'm not saying we can't win the game, just that it's very unlikely.

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Quote: christopher "True, but so have Saints theyve only scored a lot against the bottom teams, unfortunately they don’t let many in either.

It’s a winable game though'"

Saints don't appear to be in the best of form but our toothless aimless attack will need to improve a lot to beat them. There is only the bottom 3 who have scored less points than us this season.

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Quote: The Magic Rat "Saints don't appear to be in the best of form but our toothless aimless attack will need to improve a lot to beat them. There is only the bottom 3 who have scored less points than us this season.'"


Don’t get me wrong we’ll need to improve on recent showings that’s for sure.

It would be nice to get through a game without losing one or two through injury aswell

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We're gonna nail them, keep the faith.

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Fingers crossed

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Corey Johnson, fresh from 80 seconds on the field last weekend, has joined Halifax Panthers on Dual Reg.

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Quote: batleyrhino "Corey Johnson, fresh from 80 seconds on the field last weekend, has joined Halifax Panthers on Dual Reg.'"

Nice trip to sunny france as a pat on the back from Rohan before he goes.

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If previous rumours are true it might be the opposite: that Johnson is back in the frame as #2 hooker to Ackers for next year, and we're looking for him to play into some form in the Champ first.

We have another couple of hookers coming through the system but they're at least a couple more years off first grade I think.

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I think of people I'd rather send to Halifax

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Quote: ArthurClues "I hope you're right. I think it's unlikely we'll come away with anything from Saints though. We've generally lifted ourselves against them, but their 80 minute high intensity approach is like kryptonite to our mistake ridden, play in spurts style. I just want to see us go there and not play soft, which in my book means not giving it to them on a plate with knock ons in every other set, suicidal kicking, and letting the opposition camp out in our half for long stretches of the game. That would be significant progress and proof that the coach and players alike had used the break to address fundamental failings. And Jim, Saints are not in the CC Cup.'"

100% agree I don't mind the defeats as long as we are competitive and can demonstrate some attacking structure establish field position and cut out basic errors.
Thats the concern for me that we don't appear to be progressing in any of these areas. We had some decent results last year against the top teams but in most cases they were in crazy games with no structure built on one fantastic half of rugby and some top individual performances mainly from Austin in the half dozen games he turned up in over 2 years. Thats not the foundation for consistent success. On paper in theory if we get all our players fit we should be competitive and I really hope that we can turn things around as there is no obvious easily attainable coaching solution currently available so hopefully RS can ride things out and deliver improved consistency and address the issues Unfortunately what I am currently watching every week tells me the July is out on if he can. With 2 weeks off to prepare we should hopefully see some improvements in the basicsif we are working on the right areas

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that is my big bugbear.
everyone can see the issues except the man in charge who continues with the same failing tactics he has used, and failed with, for 18 months.
that's why I'm convinced nothing will change until the coach is changed

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Quote: tad rhino "that is my big bugbear.
everyone can see the issues except the man in charge who continues with the same failing tactics he has used, and failed with, for 18 months.
that's why I'm convinced nothing will change until the coach is changed'"


Thats your issue Tadders, tell me, how many Rhino's coaches have you been happy with for the last 20 years?
How many of the current crop of players do you rate and would keep?
Who do you think that is attainable we should recruit as a coach and how much have they won?
Its so easy to snipe from the background, how difficult should it be to be constructive ?

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what is there to be constructive about?
the last good coach was macdermott. agar steadied the ship well but stayed too long.
this group is capable of much more. i said last year graham Murray would have this group top 5 easily. not winning but competing.
im not sure, after 18 months of rubbish and not signs of change, how people can still think smith turns this around.
he is set on playing this style. that's fine. he is the coach its his choice. but he also has to face the criticism when it blatantly doesnt work yet carries on. I work with a guy who won SL, not with leeds, who can't believe what he sees.im with him

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