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Yeah i’m not sure getting rid of our only prop that is decent, a homegrown player, is the way to fix our lack of pack to be honest. But each to their own.

Anyway to top it off it took me an absolute age getting home last night I seemed to be stuck near Bolton for hours.

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I think Mik would look better in a pack that has more talent. I think at times he’s trying too hard. I will agree he’s had an inconsistent season by his standards. I wouldn’t get rid though. He was one of the first players highlighted by Arthur when he got over and Arthur has a good track record with props.

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Quote: Once were Loiners "One thing's for sure, some of our players must be outrageously overpaid if the squad as a whole is paid about the same as Wigan.'"

As I recall (according to SKY) Wigan spent about 600k more than us.
Actually, it's 400k. They also estimated Wire and Catalans spend 300k more. We were tied in 4th, with Huddersfield and Saints.

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Quote: ArthurClues "As I recall (according to SKY) Wigan spent about 600k more than us.'"


If that is right, it’s time that caddick looked for some new blood and investors who want to win

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400k is 2 very good players. If we then trimmed out the dross we could easily bring in 3 more very good players, and fill the rest of the squad places with kids or regular pros like Donno.

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Momorovski is up there with one of the worse overseas signings we have made.
I agree Edgell and Lumb looked good but physically nowhere near playing regularly at this level yet.
Our forwards were a disgrace and for the Bentley bashers who put his hand up to play as an interchange prop and most probably topped the tackle count yet again.
O`Connor who I like had a terrible game and our props were outmuscled every time.
Thompson is the sort of prop we should be signing not Sangare and Goudemand.
Not that it will happen but I hope we don`t beat KR next week and make the playoffs.

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Quote: christopher "Yeah i’m not sure getting rid of our only prop that is decent, a homegrown player, is the way to fix our lack of pack to be honest. But each to their own.

Anyway to top it off it took me an absolute age getting home last night I seemed to be stuck near Bolton for hours.'"


If the player is good enough then regardless of being homegrown something needs to be done. The reason the pack is so poor is that its members are not of the appropriate standard

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Quote: Zoo Zoo Boom "If the player is good enough then regardless of being homegrown something needs to be done. The reason the pack is so poor is that its members are not of the appropriate standard'"


He’s been carrying the pack for a couple of years, Oledski isn’t the problem.

You don’t throw the baby out with the bath water.

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Carrying the pack give it a rest we went better without him not Leeds standard.

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Quote: Chesterrhino "Carrying the pack give it a rest we went better without him not Leeds standard.'"

Which of our current prop forwards do you think is a better player, or indeed better value for money than Oledzki?

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Quote: christopher "He’s been carrying the pack for a couple of years, Oledski isn’t the problem.

You don’t throw the baby out with the bath water.'"


After every loss, we might as well rename every thread on southstander 'throwing the baby out with the bathwater'. Strange how this didn't happen after we beat Wigan a few weeks ago.

All those years of success have made Leeds fans some of the most fickle fans in SL. Pre-2004, we didn't expect success, but good players weren't routinely bagged in the manner we've become accustomed to now after a defeat.

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"Leeds is the greatest club in Rugby League" Alex Murphy 2011:



I wonder how long after the season is over we’ll be getting the email from Gawry. In light of the number of emails he’s sent trying to raise morale (and funds) over the last 7 years he’s probably run out of material. Maybe it’s time for a ghostwriter ? Step forward Jamie Jones Buchanan. There will be no mention of over rated underperforming Australians, powder puff 5 minute props or half backs that can’t even kick a rugby ball properly. There will be “overcoming adversity” , “climbing mountains together”, believe in the process” and biblical references to the second coming of Brad Dwyer. As if hypnotised we will throw our money ( no cheques or cash please) at the board for Gawry to squander as he feels best. I am sure there’s a phoenix waiting to rise from the ashes somewhere, I’m just not sure it’s in Leeds 6.

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Quote: christopher "He’s been carrying the pack for a couple of years, Oledski isn’t the problem.

You don’t throw the baby out with the bath water.'"


According to you there isn't a player in the squad that is the problem. If that is the case why are we in the situation we are.

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Quote: ArthurClues "Which of our current prop forwards do you think is a better player, or indeed better value for money than Oledzki?'"


Given we don't know his salary details we cannot comment on his value for money. All you can say is that none of them are of the required standard if you want to be challenging the top 3/4 sides. His attempt at a tackle for the first Wigan try was embarrassing.

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Quote: Zoo Zoo Boom "Given we don't know his salary details we cannot comment on his value for money. All you can say is that none of them are of the required standard if you want to be challenging the top 3/4 sides. His attempt at a tackle for the first Wigan try was embarrassing.'"

So your strategy would be get rid of all the props (all contracted) and somehow source 4 better quality replacements in a market where decent props are at a premium? Personally I think that’s an impossible ask in the context of the salary cap.

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