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Quote: christopher "Didn’t enjoy that really Elland Road is a dump and the ref basically killed the game as a contest in that second half imo, that no knock on then yellow to fus did it for the contest.

There was a lot of positives from the game but as I say was not an enjoyable experience at all.'"


Completely agree, me and
My lad missed last week v Wigan. We sat in the Kop which was rammed in Wigan v saints game , unreserved searing , utter carnage. We sat at end of a row on the left and I hardly saw anything of Wigan game for people filling the aisles.

I thought we played pretty tough but lack of props and a few other factors meant we were always up against it. They rested 5 last week and look a serious outfit this season. It could actually be their year.

As you say Kendall ruined the game for me. We did not get a penalty or 6 again until 60th minute and I genuinely believe he takes up back further in defence.

Newman was limping a lot today ,but kept trying and thought our number 4 was
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Quote: leeds owl "Don’t Dom Perignon do an alcohol free ? The butler had one on ice. In fairness, I agree with a lot of what you say. I am confident that we now have a very good coach at (for how long?) at the helm, and I think he will turn it round given proper backing. I never enjoy it when we lose, but to your point - I've kinda got used to it.

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A positive for me was reinforcing the problems we have up front but also that we lack something in attack as well. That's a positive because the last thing we need is this squad giving a false impression of how good they are (or aren't).

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Overall a poor day from pretty much everyone in our side. Miller terrible fus crap Smith kills any play he's involved with. No power upfront apart from 2 drives from lisone before he's done for the stint. Yes the ref was poor but we would have struggled to beat a championship club today.

Sinfield just doesn't look ready/good enough at this level yet. Give him a full season at a championship club but fear he could be the next Lilley. Newman isn't the same player he was. Discipline and laziness at marker let us down repeatedly tonight.

Hopes for a top 6 finish diminish somewhat tonight but at least it highlights need for 2/3 big signings

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Quote: leeds owl "Depends which game. I expect to lose against the better teams, and most of the time show little flair in attacking positions. I expect to have a mixed bag against the average teams, and beat the really poor one’s anchored at the bottom of the table. That is based on our current squad and managers over this season . If you had asked me at the start of the season my expectations would have been a lot higher. The important context in my quote you referenced was I replied to posters that seemed happy to be losing games narrowly, or happy to lose and have some perceived plus points to take from a game. All a bit defeatist and overly optimistic for my liking. Have I been disappointed a lot this season ? The short and obvious answer is yes, what were you really expecting ? Was I disappointed tonight ? again yes. Only one of the Arthur Clues “ building for the future” crew would have been happy or taken many positives from tonight. He probably bought a bottle of Dom Perignon on the way home to celebrate being beaten by less than 20 points. Others will flip flop and say Momorovski had a decent game and ignore Frawley being back to terrible again. That shows what a low bar some people set regarding us as a club and what we should be expecting and accepting. I would say the negatives outweighed the positives again tonight, the only defence could be the ref was poor for us and once again showed the two tier refereeing system at it’s best. Many will be happy to ignore the fact we played against 12 and a half men for most of the game and failed to take advantage. The half of a man managed to score a hat trick on one leg as well. Overall, lots to build on for the Arthur Clues Crew and not much else for the realists.
Good post Owly and mostly true. Suppose my approach is to watch on and laugh about what we have become. Other teams fans are loving our situation. Biggest budget/resources in the league, yet missing top 6 again. Hard to believe really……




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Quote: ALAW "Overall a poor day from pretty much everyone in our side. Miller terrible fus crap Smith kills any play he's involved with. No power upfront apart from 2 drives from lisone before he's done for the stint. Yes the ref was poor but we would have struggled to beat a championship club today.

Sinfield just doesn't look ready/good enough at this level yet. Give him a full season at a championship club but fear he could be the next Lilley. Newman isn't the same player he was. Discipline and laziness at marker let us down repeatedly tonight.

Hopes for a top 6 finish diminish somewhat tonight but at least it highlights need for 2/3 big signings'"


Struggle to beat a championship side.

Give over. That’s nonsense.

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Quote: christopher "Struggle to beat a championship side.

Give over. That’s nonsense.'"

Arthur thought we played as well last night as we did against Wigan. I thought that was certainly true of the 1st half. Will be really interested to see if we can manage that level of intensity on Friday against Catalan.

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Quote: ArthurClues "Arthur thought we played as well last night as we did against Wigan. I thought that was certainly true of the 1st half. Will be really interested to see if we can manage that level of intensity on Friday against Catalan.'"

Another delusional coach?

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I think it would have been game over by half time under smith.

Our intent on D was really good. We just didn’t have the cutting edge and then the game devolved in the second half under Kendall.

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Quote: FGB "We look so much better with OConnor at 13.

I don't know where Cameron Smith fits into this team.'"


Halifax or Bradford, Cas at a push

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Quote: Shabino "Another delusional coach?'"

Think he sees it and says it as it is, Shabs.

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Cam Smith was rubbish at pass the parcel as a kid

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Quote: Gazwire "Well played there Leeds - scoreline was in no way a reflection of how close that was. Thought the unjustified yellow turned the game really to our advantage. Your line speed was incredibly impressive and I actually thought you controlled the ruck for the most part up until the sin bin.

Hopefully you can keep hold of Arthur, you look a different team with him at the reins. If hes there next season I expect you to be right up around the top again.'"


Shows where we’re at. Sympathy from Wire fans icon_lol.gif

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Quote: Barrie’s Glass Eye "I think it would have been game over by half time under smith.

Our intent on D was really good. We just didn’t have the cutting edge and then the game devolved in the second half under Kendall.'"


I agree I think Wire would have won by 40-50 plus against many teams last night.

Wire were very good and I think Arthur is right , thought we had a real dig.

On 20 minutes our interchange props came on, Bentley and O’Connor , sums up our current squad, but both had a real go.

Arthur is making us much better.

Plenty of work to do at marker and other stuff but he’s pushing the players much harder

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Congratulations (genuine) to Warrington deserved Winners, they look old Trafford bound. A plus factor they have appeared to have an acquired 13 referees into the team. Excellent first half for us superb defensive line speed, unlucky to be behind at half time. Unfortunately we ran out of energy in the second half, not helped by the ridiculous so called penalty try incident. Reluctant to criticise the team for a courageous performance, sadly the usual faults on display. Frawley not good enough at this level, Newman drifts in and out of the game. Sinfield not ready at the moment, Warrington mid field Runners far too quick for us. Missed Croft badly, lack of cutting edge in the three quarters. Never got a fair crack of the whip from the referee, rightfully called out by BA after the match. We are improving from Rohan smith’s tenure, however until we get rid of the deadwood it’s going to be a battle. Would love to see us sign a couple of serious forwards and have BA have a good pre season work out with the squad.

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