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| Quote: christopher "I see woolf is defending Knowles saying it shouldn’t be a ban - absolute nonsense'"
Should fine him for being a muppet xD
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| Quote: ploinerrhino "MYLER
BRISCOE
HARDAKER
SUTTCLIFFE
TINDALL
AUSTIN
LEEMING
PRIOR
O'CONNOR
OLEDSKI
BENTLEY
MARTIN
SMITH
SUBS
GANNON
THOMPSON
TETEVANO
DONALDSON
UNLUCKY
DWYER
WALTERS
INJURED
SEZER
HANDLEY
NEWMAN
FUSITUA
HOLDROYD'"
Agree I’d go with Leeming in the halves. Zak’s defence out wide will be key
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| If you have Leeming in the halves youre probably looking at Dwyer on the bench or asking O'connor to do 80 mins. Our pack though needs to be as big and physical as possible
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| MRP will do what they do, it’s a lottery so could be anything or nothing. I do think Knowles cops a ban however you spin it and that is ridiculous as there was absolutely no need.
What I do know is if as a Leeds fan I had the choice of removing two players from Saints team then Walmsley and Knowles would easily be in the top 4 picks.
On the counter if i was a saints fan and I had the same choice I would probably have Newman and Sezer in my top 4.
I think if Knowles isn’t playing saints drop down in intensity, especially in defence and they look a lot weaker at first interchange.
Either way I think it will be a good game next week and will be close
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| Knowles will definitely be banned, it’s preposterous even with the inconsistency of the MRP that he will not be banned, it’s a crystal clear Chicken Wing.
Welsby, it’s a close one. I saw an angle where it showed clear shoulder contact to the head, but if the MRP see the angle from the other side it’s NCTA.
Makinson, whilst calculated, was correctly called as a penalty only. NCTA.
Matautia, clearly trying to support an injured player, ridiculous for anyone to suggest a ban.
Lees, does knee Sio in the head, it’s possibly careless, but is really just accidental.
So, Knowles is out and everyone else likely to play. I wouldn’t want it any other way.
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| Quote: batleyrhino "Knowles will definitely be banned, it’s preposterous even with the inconsistency of the MRP that he will not be banned, it’s a crystal clear Chicken Wing.
Welsby, it’s a close one. I saw an angle where it showed clear shoulder contact to the head, but if the MRP see the angle from the other side it’s NCTA.
Makinson, whilst calculated, was correctly called as a penalty only. NCTA.
Matautia, clearly trying to support an injured player, ridiculous for anyone to suggest a ban.
Lees, does knee Sio in the head, it’s possibly careless, but is really just accidental.
So, Knowles is out and everyone else likely to play. I wouldn’t want it any other way.'"
Yeah I agree, really sensible post and view of the different incidents. From our perspective Knowles being out on top of Walmsley should give us some confidence.
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| Quote: Seth "If you have Leeming in the halves youre probably looking at Dwyer on the bench or asking O'connor to do 80 mins. Our pack though needs to be as big and physical as possible'"
Leeming should have had a spell at 9 in that first half. He’s direct around the ruck, it was desperately needed. He’s tried to hard since coming back and been too dominating. I suspect he’ll feature for a stint next week before half time.
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| Quote: Les Norton "Leeming should have had a spell at 9 in that first half. He’s direct around the ruck, it was desperately needed. He’s tried to hard since coming back and been too dominating. I suspect he’ll feature for a stint next week before half time.'"
Yeah I'd agree with that
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| The record books will only show the result, and the best chance of us winning is by them having players banned.... so clear plenty of seats in the stand for me. Especially given some of the bans we've had, when penalties weren't even given for those 'offences'.
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| Quote: Sir Kevin Sinfield "Saints should be missing a few, my guess is
Morgan Knowles
Chicken wing tackle 2 match ban
Jack Welsby
Contact with the head 3 match ban
Sione Mata'utia
Moving an injured opponent on the floor 2 match ban
Tommy Makinson
Professional foul in the act of scoring a try 1 match ban'"
Lol.
Knowles will get a ban, the rest is nonsense.
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| Quote: FearTheVee "Lol.
Knowles will get a ban, the rest is nonsense.'"
Lol
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| Wellsby's was a reckless tackle that could have caused serious damage. He had zero control over the impact, which could have easily been a bad headclash or a more significant shoulder to the head.
I'll probably get shot for saying this but Knowles' was nothing like as bad as a chicken wing. I don't think there was any intent to injure the opponent, just an (illegal) attempt to slow the PTB. Penalty and maybe a sinbin with a warning about technique, but nothing more.
Whether either get banned depends on whether the MRP tries to be consistent with its approach from most of this year, which would see both get banned, or whether they have 'grand final glasses' on, in which case neither will. Maybe a 'grand final monocle' and one of them gets a ban?
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| Not Leeds related, but the more you watch the Lafai penalty try claim, the more shocking it becomes. If that’s not a semi final, it’s given every day of the week.
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| Quote: Once were Loiners "Wellsby's was a reckless tackle that could have caused serious damage. He had zero control over the impact, which could have easily been a bad headclash or a more significant shoulder to the head.
I'll probably get shot for saying this but Knowles' was nothing like as bad as a chicken wing. I don't think there was any intent to injure the opponent, just an (illegal) attempt to slow the PTB. Penalty and maybe a sinbin with a warning about technique, but nothing more.
Whether either get banned depends on whether the MRP tries to be consistent with its approach from most of this year, which would see both get banned, or whether they have 'grand final glasses' on, in which case neither will. Maybe a 'grand final monocle' and one of them gets a ban?'"
No shooting down by me on the Knowles one. Pulled the arm behind the player's back but not in a way that put any real stress on any joint. Could still be deemed reckless I suppose. Wellsby's looked the worst of the two though I haven't gone into forensic scrutiny of footage on my phone.
Tbh, after banging on about soft bans all season I'm not comfortable with hoping the panel bans yet more players. If we're good enough, we'll beat saints regardless of who they have on the park. If not, so be it.
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