I agree but its easy to say but when you’re on the back foot constantly it heightens any issues

Nah he’s and has been all along even GH who regrets breaking his own pay scale to keep him, should have let him go to Warrington with his e brother , where he playing now. All the he smiths think there the dogz and are all e

But we were making dumb errors and decisions in the opening 2 sets with the ball?

That has nothing to do with effort

Seem to have an agenda with that post.

It’s not true either, he played against Huddersfield

Sorry, bar that and the appearances he's had it doesn't amount to much. He certainly comes down the pecking order for criticism.

Like i told you yesterday at full strength we wouldnt win here many times. Saints are different gravy.

Some soft tries. Only Myler coming out with any credit in that half. Too many young players in team for this opponent but there woll be long term benefit from seeing standard required at top level.

Saints are too big, too fast and make very few errors for us tonight.

This needs saying: Saints are a great side hell bent on giving someone a hiding. Unfortunately tonight it is us. Here at the ground and it's painful to watch, however I can't argue it's not value for money. As for Leeds, first set sums it up: woeful pass from Dywer on tackle three or four followed by failure to get a kick in by our half. Need to give yourself half a chance. Walters does look a tad cumbersome, but then he always will at his height. Needs to stop tackling with his arms. Fair play to Dywer for getting the try. He's flaws are obvious but his effort and commitment never less than 100 per cent.

It possibly shows that not making the playoffs might not be all that bad an idea, were simply not going to compete with the amount of pivotal players we have out unfortunately

I'll reserve judgement til I see what's offered up second half but there's a couple of performances tonight bad enough to put you off a player for their entire career

Swings and roundabouts really - iI still think we’ll qualify but not get far.

Said it before but this team desperately needs to get into camp and have a really solid pre-season. The young lads need to put some hard graft into conditioning and the whole team needs to find some shape and rhythm. Given that we’ll be right up there next year.

Yeah agenda is I’ve seen enough of Cameron smith to know he’s utter e and would struggle to get a game a Fev

Why do we persist with going down the short side on exit sets.