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Quote: RHINO-MARK "There's a big difference in this case v Wards history though mate.
Crosby joined carrying an injury we then decided to sign him on a long term deal knowing this & since he hasnt played at all not 1 game.
Now his personal stuff is devastating absolutely horrendous but in pure terms of recruitment it was a poor call by Sinfield big time.'"


Is the injury Crosby signed with the same one that has kept him out?

Bearing in mind it was due to complications with the surgery and recovery that has kept him out.

Hindsight is a wonderful thing and Sinfield hasn’t got a crystal ball, it was a poor call if he had known he was going to be out for a year, but I doubt that was the case at the time.

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Quote: christopher "Is the injury Crosby signed with the same one that has kept him out?

Bearing in mind it was due to complications with the surgery and recovery that has kept him out.

Hindsight is a wonderful thing and Sinfield hasn’t got a crystal ball, it was a poor call if he had known he was going to be out for a year, but I doubt that was the case at the time.'"


He had a poor injury record which was one of the reasons he was available - as you hindsight is a wonderful thing but it was a poor call given the known facts

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Quote: christopher "Is the injury Crosby signed with the same one that has kept him out?

Bearing in mind it was due to complications with the surgery and recovery that has kept him out.

Hindsight is a wonderful thing and Sinfield hasn’t got a crystal ball, it was a poor call if he had known he was going to be out for a year, but I doubt that was the case at the time.'"

His knee injury yes same knee we've already covered this he played strapped & jabbed up the surgery was scheduled.
I oniw you're more ready to give the benefit of the doubt but Sinfield got this one wrong just like giving his mates Ablett & Jjb new deals.

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Regards Ward i agree with others in that he needs taking away from that crash bang wallop mould of play as its clear he is just going to keep picking up injuries. I have always thought he would make a good centre given some time; he has good hands, is strong and can certainly tackle.

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Quote: RHINO-MARK "His knee injury yes same knee we've already covered this he played strapped & jabbed up the surgery was scheduled.
I oniw you're more ready to give the benefit of the doubt but Sinfield got this one wrong just like giving his mates Ablett & Jjb new deals.'"


In hindsight yes it probably wasn't a good call, but he could come back fit and do a job but yes it looks like a poor call )most bosses make these from time to time)

As for JJB and Ablett I think you need to let that one go, they're both retired, I understood the reasons at the time for those 2 players getting a contract and I believe it was more about having the players with the correct attitude in the squad, but I understand we won't agree on that one.

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Quote: Biff Tannen "Regards Ward i agree with others in that he needs taking away from that crash bang wallop mould of play as its clear he is just going to keep picking up injuries. I have always thought he would make a good centre given some time; he has good hands, is strong and can certainly tackle.'"


I recall Stevie himself saying (podcast or interview, can't remember where) that his game was always "crash bang wallop" as an amateur junior and that is what got him noticed and ultimately signed. In the academy he was played in the halves to develop his hands as they have done to a lesser extent with Cam Smith.

Personally I don't think he should play at 13 in the middle where all the players are giants these days (the days of 5ft 8" Harry Pinner waving it around at loose forward are long gone and even Kev himself allegedly insisted on playing in the halves rather than at loose forward).

I'd rather see him develop his skills as a mobile 2nd row similar to (but better than) Liam Farrell who makes up for his lack of stature with great footwork, decent hands and a high work rate.

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Quote: Holmes "I recall Stevie himself saying (podcast or interview, can't remember where) that his game was always "crash bang wallop" as an amateur junior and that is what got him noticed and ultimately signed. In the academy he was played in the halves to develop his hands as they have done to a lesser extent with Cam Smith.

Personally I don't think he should play at 13 in the middle where all the players are giants these days (the days of 5ft 8" Harry Pinner waving it around at loose forward are long gone and even Kev himself allegedly insisted on playing in the halves rather than at loose forward).

I'd rather see him develop his skills as a mobile 2nd row similar to (but better than) Liam Farrell who makes up for his lack of stature with great footwork, decent hands and a high work rate.'"



Ward is best at second row forward I agree. What is frustrating about Ward's injuries is he has always looked an absolute class act when he plays, and what is unfortunate for him is that he would have had a fair few international caps IMO if he can have a settled run without injuries, lets hope for his sake more than anyone else that once this concussion is out of the way he can get a decent run

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Quote: christopher "Ward is best at second row forward I agree. What is frustrating about Ward's injuries is he has always looked an absolute class act when he plays, and what is unfortunate for him is that he would have had a fair few international caps IMO if he can have a settled run without injuries, lets hope for his sake more than anyone else that once this concussion is out of the way he can get a decent run'"


Ward and Currie are class acts and i believe if they had stayed fit would be at the same level or above John Bateman now as imo both offer more with ball in hand.

I only suggest centre as i believe this is a position where he could possibly play out a full career from this point. I hope to be proven wrong but if he continues playing his current style i can only see more constant injury problems sadly.

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Quote: Holmes "I recall Stevie himself saying (podcast or interview, can't remember where) that his game was always "crash bang wallop" as an amateur junior and that is what got him noticed and ultimately signed. In the academy he was played in the halves to develop his hands as they have done to a lesser extent with Cam Smith.

Personally I don't think he should play at 13 in the middle where all the players are giants these days (the days of 5ft 8" Harry Pinner waving it around at loose forward are long gone and even Kev himself allegedly insisted on playing in the halves rather than at loose forward).

I'd rather see him develop his skills as a mobile 2nd row similar to (but better than) Liam Farrell who makes up for his lack of stature with great footwork, decent hands and a high work rate.'"

Hmmm as a jnr he was always playing 6 or extra pivot at 13 so not sure where you heard that.
The lads around him even nicknamed him Kev.

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I'm pretty sure he was a back rower before we signed him.

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Same as last week then.

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Quote: Charlie Sheen "Same as last week then.'"


Nope, Alex Sutcliffe in for Rhyse Martin. However I’d hazard a guess that the 17 man squad will be the same.

I’d expect Alex Sutcliffe and Rhys Evans to play for the reserves and Callum Mclelland and Tom Holroyd to go on dual registration.

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Quote: Frosties. "Nope, Alex Sutcliffe in for Rhyse Martin. However I’d hazard a guess that the 17 man squad will be the same.

I’d expect Alex Sutcliffe and Rhys Evans to play for the reserves and Callum Mclelland and Tom Holroyd to go on dual registration.'"


It's the Challenge Cup for Championship teams this weekend so no DR for Fev (Wellington Albert is in the Fev squad but being realistic I think his days at Leeds are probably done).

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