Sinfield does deserve criticism for some signings (he won’t be the first or the last make some bad calls re recruits) he also deserves time to implement the things he was employed to do, he has consistently said that their is no quick fix to the problems the club has at the moment.

We have a whole load of players off contract at the end of the season, a great crop of youngsters coming through, knee jerking will do the club no favours at this point, I still think we will finish mid table ish this year which is realistically expect to be.

I'm not sure how we did it, but we got rid of Ben Walker mid season and mid contract a good few years ago, but he actually had the fitness/physique of a pro athlete but could not defend for like Lolohea either.

Shocking signing, we need to attempt to get out of this deal as he also will be on a big wedge.

Walker didn't go mid-season, he played right to the end and the thrashing at Wigan in the play offs. A mutual arrangement was made for him to leave after the end of the season when he went back to the NRL.

Walker's points scoring seemed to blind people to the fact he was in fact rubbish. Lolohea won't be wanted by any NRL team if he can't get into the worst team in SL.

What we could do is properly "performance manage" him WRT fitness. I don't see any downside - either he gets fit and therefore does better on the field, or he doesn't and he gets fired. I don't see how Leeds as his employer aren't entitled to expect him to meet pro fitness standards. The only excuse for not being fit is injury.

Back on topic, whilst there's still a fair chunk of the season to go we need to start getting wins fairly soon unless we want to risk everything on the back end of the season. We saw how this squad played under that pressure last year and it wasn't pretty.

I wouldn't say we're there yet but Leeds would have to look at extreme measures if we get much past halfway through the season with a gap to the next team above us.

What’s been really annoying for me this season is the close losses which could define the season, close the Saints game out (in which we were the better team) and cliose the Catalan game out (again in which we were the better team) and close the London game out (which was bloody criminal) and we are sitting in the top end of the table.

We have looked far better in attack than previous seasons (the stats prove this) but we have looked worse in errors and defence(again the statd prove this)

I fully expected a season of inconsistency but what have had is consistency, but the wrong type!

28 points per game against says everything.

Equally one of the games you won was only because McShane had a head rush and didn't drop the certain 1 pointer on offer.

Is Sinfield doing for you what Peacock did for us ?

Equally McShane should never have been on the pitch. He should have been sent off, all the stadium saw what happened except the ref and touch judge.
Comments after the game from Powell did not help.

We are in trouble and the players know that, speaking to Cuthbo before the Cas game he did say that for the players that we have at Headingley we should not be in this position and frankly they cannot understand why they are in this mess.

if the players don't know why we are at the bottom then we are in trouble, I know certain people on here always want to contradict what others are saying, as if they know best, but we need this team to start to perform and start being open to criticism. If not how long do we expect Furner to last. There has to be a plan B going forward if not that in itself has to be neglect.

And that has what to do with their coaching ability?

Well i started the post, mainly as a bit of a knee jerk reaction to the abysmal performance against Hull Kr. But the main purpose was discussion, what i wanted was improvements and results particularly defense. We are still not improving and defense is still appalling, yes we beat a very poor Huddersfield but nearly blew that, and failed to beat a injury ravaged Wakefield side again mainly due to poor defense. we have failed to win back to back league games this year. Well Hull Kr at Home then Salford away are surly must wind for Furner any less and he is surely facing the axe. Its Ok saying the squad is poor, but he has been given some big signings, bigger than the last couple Leeds coaches got. Good coaches should be able to get the best out of a poor squad and at least get than playing for one and other and showing desire, we are simply not seeing this at all. Look at Salford Ian Watson keeping an average squad well in the mix.
We need improvements and we need results sooner not later.

Well said and agree completely. He has to win the next 2 for me or has to go. I'm not one for calling for a coach to be sacked just for the sake of it as theres a harsh reality behind it but Furner simply isn't getting his players to perform at all. This squad is better than a joint bottom of super league squad. We can't even defend properly for goodness sake.

Shaun Wane anyone? Never been a fan of his coaching style but pretty sure he'd get rid of some of the soft defence and lack of heart. Also has great track record of bringing through youngsters. Needs must.

Flanagan for me or Cartwright

when does Richard Agar take over ?