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| Cam Smith should really be in the 17 and I can see him spitting the dummy soon,and i couldn't blame him
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| Quote: Gotcha "So if poor defensive performance was the reason for his ommission since, then that would highlight the problem the club are having, as not treating players consistently.'"
Something none of us knows, the reason(s) for him being dropped. The sheer number of tackles he made might be down to a failure to play where and how Furner wanted him to. We just don't know.
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| Quote: Lanzarote Rhino "Cam Smith should really be in the 17 and I can see him spitting the dummy soon,and i couldn't blame him'"
Cameron Smith is 20, if he's spat his dummy at not being a first team regular at that age I'd say his attitude is not great IMO
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| He's right to be frustrated when OAPs are getting games ahead of him.
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| Quote: christopher "Cameron Smith is 20, if he's spat his dummy at not being a first team regular at that age I'd say his attitude is not great IMO'"
Age is completely irrelevant. ANY player should be dissapointed if a player of less ability is taking a place they should have. At least I would hope EVERY player feels that way, otherwise their desire is questionable.
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| Quote: Gotcha "Age is completely irrelevant. ANY player should be dissapointed if a player of less ability is taking a place they should have. At least I would hope EVERY player feels that way, otherwise their desire is questionable.'"
Disappointed yes, driven to get a place in the side, yes, spitting your dummy out when your only just out of the Academy, no. Anyway its all just forum supposition isn't it.
Cameron Smith is a very good player and IMO will be part of the Leeds side for years to come. If he wasn't part if their plans he would have been one of the 'free to go' players.
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| I still think the only reason Smith isn’t in the side is down to his defence. We’re shipping way too many tries as it is and for that reason he’s not getting selected.
It’s nothing to do with age or his ability going forward. Oledzski and Walker are first team regulars at similar age. Both can defend.
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| Quote: KaeruJim "I still think the only reason Smith isn’t in the side is down to his defence. We’re shipping way too many tries as it is and for that reason he’s not getting selected.
It’s nothing to do with age or his ability going forward. Oledzski and Walker are first team regulars at similar age. Both can defend.'"
If you think he has a problem with defence, then I respectfully suggest you have rarely seen him play. There are far worse defenders in that side playing regularly.
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| Quote: Gotcha "This again. Why do people keep coming up with this? his defensive performance whilst missing a couple of key tackles, far exceeded that of his team mates. He was top tackler in the game in question, and he did that from stand off, a position nobody else in the game makes the amount of tackles he did.
So if poor defensive performance was the reason for his ommission since, then that would highlight the problem the club are having, as not treating players consistently.'"
I stand corrected. He did miss a few tackles but no more than Sutcliffe or Merrin. Smith's defence was highlighted by more than one Sky pundit for that game (including Barrie Mac) - presumably some of the misses led to soft tries? That's all I can think of.
I have high hopes for Cameron Smith, but I get the impression that he's going to have to come in to the first team and make a big impact to keep his place (unlike someone like Sutcliffe, who really must be ripping it up in training). What a shame that obstruction try wasn't given.
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| If London win will Furner be gone then?
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| Quote: PooleRhino "If London win will Furner be gone then?'"
Don’t be ridiculous
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| Quote: PooleRhino "If London win will Furner be gone then?'"
If this is the case it would make it a must win game for Furner
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| Quote: Gotcha "If you think he has a problem with defence, then I respectfully suggest you have rarely seen him play. There are far worse defenders in that side playing regularly.'"
That doesn’t show that Smith doesn’t have a problem with defence, it simply highlights we have a number of poor defenders in the squad and starting team.
I really like Smith and think he is a good player and could become a great player. However, if he is a ball playing 13 and you compare him to SOL then he needs to improve his defence and show a bit more with the ball IMO. If you are saying smith is a better second row than Sutcliffe and should be playing over him I wouldn’t disagree but there just be a reason he isn’t. Not sure he does anything we clearly need at second row, he won’t get through the line regularly and doesn’t have any whack in defence.
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| Quote: Gotcha "If you think he has a problem with defence, then I respectfully suggest you have rarely seen him play. There are far worse defenders in that side playing regularly.'"
Mate we’ve been here before. I’ve seen Cam Smith play a fair bit, from his Academy days through. He’s pretty good head on but has been poor laterally at times.
I agree he should be in the 17, and think he has more to offer than Sutcliffe, but when Furner gave him a shot he missed about 6 tackles? I get that this was at SO.
If you think Furner has some other ulterior motive for not picking an obviously talented player then fair enough. Why else do you think it is? We have 2 other players about the same age as regular first teamers, both of whom are pretty solid defensively as it happens.
We do have other issues with defence with other players too, I’d agree. I hope Smith does get a run in the side and develops his defence because there is a cracking player in prospect there.
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