Mmm depends how you judge. Running game, yes tonight, probably. Dwyer put a big dig in. But if you look at defence technique, game nous and particularly the service from dummy half, Roby still wins IMO. Dwyer certainly did well though and that’s not where we lost the game.

Once you’d turned it on, I thought there would be only one winner.

Hurrell is by far the best centre in the league. Great player.

Lolohea’s defence is a major concern on your right edge. They stole metres all night down there.

Yes I want Tui to work out but our right side defence with him, Sutcliffe and Watkins back from injury looks leaky.
We looked pretty good in patches going forward.
Still a few players short of the top sides, but we know that.

I think somebody mentioned your a couple of props short and I have to agree. Dwyer and Parcell combination will be deadly this season if you get on the front foot. Judging by tonight there’s room for improvement but you look better than last season.
Plus with Wigan and Saints away over and done with, it should create easier run ins thoughout the season.

Played 4 games lost 3 games all away from home and of the 3 games only Warrington was miles better. Tonight's display was great going forward, but again suspect in defence, and playing alongside a suspect referee, we was never going to win this game with Hicks in charge. After the Wigan game , and the ref there was terrible Hicks as sunk to a new low when using the term impartial. The guy is a joke, he plays to the home crowd and any 50/50 call goes to the home side, even Sky picked up on the Saints knock on, 10 metres out 5 minutes left, Leeds pressing forward, he choose to miss it and gave saints the scrum, the ref has blinkers on. That was the most embarrassing performance I have seen from a so called professional referee in a long time so bad it was shocking.
Last bit, injuries and performance, some players last year were given a warning our high paid players sat in the stand with injuries, again Ward out injured, isn't it about time he retired , he is so injury prone it's unbelievable.

I'm going to tell you what i thought as a Saints fan about your team tonight.
I thought after going 10-0 down you showed some grit and didn't let heads go down,you moved the ball quickly and well from one side of the pitch to the other,Hurrell caused all kinds of trouble in the first half and we didn't really have an answer to that. The end of the first half came just at the right time for us.

Second half you didn't have a lot of the ball and had to defend a lot and it told in the end,there was some bad defence in your own 20. When you did have the ball and it became apparent that we had changed a bit and had Hurrell wrapped up then there didn't seem a plan B.

The ref missed a few things for both teams,but as mentioned the knock on he gave us near the end was obvious to everyone that it should of been a Leeds scrum,i'm not sure you would of scored,but you should of at least had the chance to.

We targeted Lolohea in defence and he gave up so much easy ground it should of been obvious to the coaching team that something should of been done. Overall Leeds looked good in patches and poor in others,as the season goes by things will tighten up and get better. You still need a hard running prop and a better game managing halfback though.

I’m not sure, Dwyer played out of his skin. Roby has the luxury of a better set of props.

Don’t get me wrong, Roby is the the better player, not many are as good as Roby, including NRL. But tonight, Dwyer was outstanding. If only we had a couple of decent props.....

Yep. I’ve never seen that decision given before despite seeing hundreds, if not thousands, of examples of the same thing.

Reminiscent of Peacock being penalised for offside as we kicked off. Never seen anyone else penalised for it and he got done twice.

I agree 100%. Really encouraged by attacking shape tonight.

This spine can't close a game out, same problem that started our decline last year.

Swap Sinfield or McGuire in for Myler or Tui and we win the game more often than not.

To be fair to the props, I thought Cuthbertson had a great game, and Mik and Singleton made an impact off the bench. We just need a Peacock, or a Walmsley in the front row with them.

Let me get yhe moan at the referee out first, I don’t mind a rec getting calls wrong it does happen and they even out over a season, however it sticks in the throat a bit when he actually gets the call right then immediately changes his mind - I think we could well have scored near the end had he stuck to his original correct call.

I need to watch it back but I really feared for us after the opening 15 minutes but what was really pleasing was we stuck in there and for a 20 minute spell showed glimpses of what I think we can become, I though Lollohea in attack was very good and I continue to be impressed with Merrin, Hurrell is just plain good fun to watch and I thought Dwyer went well playing the full 80 but I do think Having Parcell and him do spells makes us a better team. Ferress finally is starting to look like the player we signed and I thought Briscoe had a really solid game.

I am happy in parts but I do think our goal line defence was far too soft today but despite that we could/shoukd have sneaked that, which I didn’t think id be saying that 4 games in.

I am Mags biggest fan but with him we wouldn't have won tonight, and i'm glad we didn't. Yes the ref was shocking, bit we that didn't make us miss tackles. Too many soft tries conceded again.

On the flip side, for 30 minutes we were sensational and Konnie is a superstar. All this doom and bloom is nonsense, we will beat them in October in Manchester, that is what matters, They didn't trouble us bar a few dodgy lapses in D which will get better with time.

Be positive, be proud, be disappointed we did not win. We would have taken that at 1930 tonight.

Yep, though I’d say more reminiscent of Bailey being penalised for tackling too hard. Ironically vs Saints IIRC.