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Quote: Trebor1 "What's clear is the change in coaching set up has not worked at all. If anything we have got worse.

Hetherington must now realise we need a top Australian with Sinfield as Director. Need at least 3 new top players to get anywhere near top 8 next year if we stay up that is. What a bloody disgrace. GH has some answers to give'"


Leeds have identified a coach but he will only come if they stay in the top league - so they need to win a few games quick or Lowes will be staying - it could be worse we could John Kear or Jon Sharp icon_biggrin.gif

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Quite bizarre at the moment, you watch each game thinking the downward spiral will stop. But it continues, our defence was so bad every time HKR had the ball I expected them to score.

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Quote: Chester Wednesday "Ive got to say I'm delighted with the result but disappointed with the scoreline
At 14-4 we were in total control and had it not been for a couple of basic errors that got you back in the game, we'd have kicked on and beaten you by 30 or 40.'"


Spot on Chester, just because you have been a sucessful team in the past, what gives you the right to be so derogatory towards Hull KR. Yes we wernt great but we beat you fair and square, in your backyard.

you lot are so arrogant and think that because you lost it is because you were poo, we as said we were not great but scored some embarrasingly easy tries against you.

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Quote: Sal Paradise "Leeds have identified a coach but he will only come if they stay in the top league - so they need to win a few games quick or Lowes will be staying - it could be worse we could John Kear or Jon Sharp
God help us. I believe we will stay up.. just. If we do we will have a huge hangover from this season which can only be resolved with a fresh top coach and a handful of good recruits. If this doesn't happen then I fear we will be bottom 4 again next year

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Quote: Sal Paradise "I know you have a soft spot for Cuthbertson but his defence is an embarrassment - he offers zero these days in attack - another two years of that crap - just what is needed.'"


I have absolutely zero soft spot. Out of this lot the only one I would keep given a choice would be Walker. However, there is much much much worse than Cuthbertson in that side.

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Quote: robinrovers10 "Spot on Chester, just because you have been a sucessful team in the past, what gives you the right to be so derogatory towards Hull KR. Yes we wernt great but we beat you fair and square, in your backyard.

you lot are so arrogant and think that because you lost it is because you were poo, we as said we were not great but scored some embarrasingly easy tries against you.'"


I think we've earnt the right to be a touch arrogant at times my friend. We are a champion club who shouldn't stand for such poor standards. Well done KR best team won and good luck for the future. You're a good club and superleague needs you. Same for us.

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Quote: Charlie Sheen "You beat us today with a blatant forward pass.'"


You had 2 or 3 also

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Terrible defensive effort, I actually thought our attack looked better but it’s pointless if you ship in more than you score! To let a ten point lead go twice is unacceptable.

If we can’t beat the sh@tshow that is Widnes next week then we deserve everything we get.

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Quote: Charlie Sheen "Absolutely no improvement since McDermott left. No organisation in offence or defence, horrendous last tackle options. Awful, absolutely awful.'"


But if you listen to Sinfield's interviews over the last 8 weeks he has been saying each week how well everything is going and how we are getting our spirit back, and they are fit and have trained well etc etc

The fact is since he and Lowes took over we are shipping an average of 30 point per match and we have won just 3 out of 8 with two of these against championship sides and the only win with SL opposition was against the a very very poor Widnes side.

I am sympathetic to Sinfield as I was to McDermott because the problem is not about coaching it is about the failure to replace the quality players that retired or left. The squad has been run down with a lack of desire to sign quality replacement players. Hetherington hoped McDermott could work his magic once more but the serious injury crisis for more than half the season did for that plan. Other sides have signed quality players and all the top sides have pivotal players that can run a game. Our lack of leadership has been obvious since Sinfield and JP left and once we lost Burrow and Maguire the cupboard is totally bare. Myler has been a bright spot but he cannot do it all on his own.

I think that BMD deserves great credit for being able to squeeze the aging and depleted squad to one last hurrah in 2017 and given that he lost half his squad to injuries for all his time this year it is a wonder that he managed to only lose 2 games out of 9 in the first third of the season.

I am not sure why Smith is not getting selected under the current management group or why Golding was dropped after having such a good game in both defence and attack last time out.

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Quote: Trebor1 "God help us. I believe we will stay up.. just. If we do we will have a huge hangover from this season which can only be resolved with a fresh top coach and a handful of good recruits. If this doesn't happen then I fear we will be bottom 4 again next year'"


I cannot believe why GH continues to be so supportive of the current 8's structure against the wishes of the rest of SL when keeping with this structure will probably see us bottom 4 for at least a couple more seasons unless there is MAJOR investment in the 1st team

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Quote: Gotcha "I have absolutely zero soft spot. Out of this lot the only one I would keep given a choice would be Walker. However, there is much much much worse than Cuthbertson in that side.'"


Its obvious you have - you singled out Singleton who was head and shoulders above Cuthbertson who was guttless.

If Ablett is out for the year then Cam Smith might get a game - at least he will be fit the forwards on the whole look over weight and unfit

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Quote: Trebor1 "I think we've earnt the right to be a touch arrogant at times my friend. We are a champion club who shouldn't stand for such poor standards. Well done KR best team won and good luck for the future. You're a good club and superleague needs you. Same for us.'"


Well said, great following from HKR, that kind of support can make the difference on a day like today. Good luck to them they are a good club.

As for us what more can be said that hasn't already? Clear out and massive changes are required and the evidence is there for all to see once again. If widnes win this weekend then next week is going to be one hell of a test. The players need to look in the mirror and ask serious questions about desire because i'm not seeing it.

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I hope all those that defended the score line against London now are starting to have a bit of realisation. It was not just a case of winning, the performance and points conceded were so very important. And in terms of points difference, looking at Toronto and Toulouse now, that scoreline against London could end up a key decider.

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Quote: Sal Paradise "Its obvious you have - you singled out Singleton who was head and shoulders above Cuthbertson who was guttless.

If Ablett is out for the year then Cam Smith might get a game - at least he will be fit the forwards on the whole look over weight and unfit'"


Singleton was horrendous Sal. He couldn’t break his way out of a paper bag. He is the definition of Powder Puff.

I totally agree on Smith, unbelievable that has not been playing.

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Few points diff away from 3rd now if Toronto continue to rout London. Doesnt matter how we win as long as we win? Yeah right.

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