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| Quote: Gotcha "Do you not understand what a team warning is, and the purpose? Because you seem to really be struggling with the concept.
When it happens in other games, penalty given for offence, and player binned, do you cry out then that they are penalised twice? I am pretty sure you don’t, because that is the point, one is a penalty for the offence, the other is a team punishment for not adhering to the warning.
Same thing last night, the try was given for the offence. The point is the team were on a warning, and as a result the team should have been punished for it.
As I keep saying it is incorrect interpretation of the rules by the officials. Otherwise the rules would state, team warnings do not come into effect in the instance of a penalty try.'"
I haven't swallowed the team warning part of the rule book but I dont think its as cut and dried as you make out. We were on a team warning for a run of penalties of interfering at the ptb. Just because you are on a team warning it doesnt mean any penalty has to be binned. What if you are marginally offside chasing an attacking kick for example? That would be incredibly harsh. Bowden's was a very different offence to the others that had brought about the warning. It was a desperate lunge to attempt to prevent a try at a crucial moment in the game. I have no issue with the penalty try. But in situations like that it has to be at the discretion of the ref, and I don't think any ref would have produced a card for that.
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| Quote: FoxyRhino "The duration of a team warning is always something subjective - as far as I am aware, there isn't a set time limit for it. Obviously, if a team concedes another penalty with a minute or two of the team warning, the referee is going to give a yellow card but does it end after 5 minutes? 10 minutes?'"
It's basically until the referee is happy that the team on a warning has made enough effort to clean up their act. Totally at their discretion, but I would guess as a rule of thumb if you are squeaky clean for 4 or 5 defensive sets it will be lifted.
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| Quote: Matt_Horton "This is the grey area, it is at the referee's discretion.'"
Be more effective if refs just binned every third person caught ar$ing about in the ruck, interfering or lying offside, say.
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FROM 2004,TO DO WHAT THIS CLUB'S DONE,IF THATS NOT GREATNESS THEN I DONT KNOW WHAT IS.
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| Quote: Matt_Horton "Apparently Myler has only ever kicked 1 drop goal in his entire career.'"
oh never mind
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| Quote: Mr. Zucchini Head "I haven't swallowed the team warning part of the rule book but I dont think its as cut and dried as you make out. We were on a team warning for a run of penalties of interfering at the ptb. Just because you are on a team warning it doesnt mean any penalty has to be binned. What if you are marginally offside chasing an attacking kick for example? That would be incredibly harsh. Bowden's was a very different offence to the others that had brought about the warning. It was a desperate lunge to attempt to prevent a try at a crucial moment in the game. I have no issue with the penalty try. But in situations like that it has to be at the discretion of the ref, and I don't think any ref would have produced a card for that.'"
I agree.
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| I was less than impressed with Handley.
Is Sutcliffe still injured? If not he should be back in the centre next week.
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| Yep, Sutcliffe is out for a few weeks. Peteru and Singleton are the only players with a chance of returning next week.
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| Played predominantly rubbish but still lost by only one point to Hull away, who themselves acted like they'd won a Grand Final.
Go figure.
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| Quote: krisleeds "Played predominantly rubbish but still lost by only one point to Hull away, who themselves acted like they'd won a Grand Final.
Go figure.'"
Really? I saw no presentation of a trophy. But I guess, if you were there at the game, you didnt see anything post match given the away section of the ground was just about empty when the final hooter sounded
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| Quote: Mild mannered Janitor "Really? I saw no presentation of a trophy. But I guess, if you were there at the game, you didnt see anything post match given the away section of the ground was just about empty when the final hooter sounded'" 72 seconds from the end was when the first leeds fan left the ground....and that was me.not used to seeing us win at hull...o wait.
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| Quote: bonnie "72 seconds from the end was when the first leeds fan left the ground....and that was me.not used to seeing us win at hull...o wait.'"
You probably need a new watch!!
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| Quote: krisleeds "Played predominantly rubbish but still lost by only one point to Hull away, who themselves acted like they'd won a Grand Final.
Go figure.'"
really? acted like we won a Grand Final?
the video ref gifted you a try. Accept it, you lost, stop being a Whino.
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| in the end we've lost 3 games to our nearest rivals and all 3 by just a point
once the pack is in full health hopefully we can turn those around but the league will be very close this year and all the top teams can and will beat each other
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| Quote: southyorksdave "in the end we've lost 3 games to our nearest rivals and all 3 by just a point
once the pack is in full health hopefully we can turn those around but the league will be very close this year and all the top teams can and will beat each other'"
I think we're all fed up of the officials. Different rules every game.
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| Quote: PCollinson1990 "really? acted like we won a Grand Final?
the video ref gifted you a try. Accept it, you lost, stop being a Whino.'"
Really not THAT bothered.
Played badly and lost to Cas and Dull; butchered a lead Vs Wigan to lose - all by a point and drew with Hudds.
We have had a fair few forwards missing and our biggest loss was vs Widnes after a trip to Australia.
I think that about says it all.
You win nothing in the regular season. Make sure you're in the Top 8 and you have a chance. As well know all too well.
Enjoy your ' We beat the champions' trophy chaps.
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