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Both Alex sutcliffe and chapman smith helped from field with bad looking injuries in first 15 mins

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Won 42-26 Holroyd sent off aswell that's a great win.

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Good win for the 19's yesterday, showed some good reslience in a hard place to play and playing with a squad of 15 for most of the game due to early injuries. Does anyone know how suttcliffe and chapman-smith are doing?

Also congratulations to the 6 lads called up to the England academy squad...Trout, McConnell, Newman, Holroyd, Broadbent and Johnson, some brilliant talent there and well deserved recognition. Pretty much what i expected but think Tyler Dupree is unlucky to miss out, he's been a real handful of an impact prop all year for the 19's...Talent wise Brad Martins easily good enough for a call up, but hasnt played that many games so can understand him missing out.

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Quote: mattsrhinos1978 "Good win for the 19's yesterday, showed some good reslience in a hard place to play and playing with a squad of 15 for most of the game due to early injuries. Does anyone know how suttcliffe and chapman-smith are doing?

Also congratulations to the 6 lads called up to the England academy squad...Trout, McConnell, Newman, Holroyd, Broadbent and Johnson, some brilliant talent there and well deserved recognition. Pretty much what i expected but think Tyler Dupree is unlucky to miss out, he's been a real handful of an impact prop all year for the 19's...Talent wise Brad Martins easily good enough for a call up, but hasnt played that many games so can understand him missing out.'"


Sadly, both Sutcliffe and chpamn-smith were in leg braces And looked pretty bad. Fingers crossed for both who have had terrible bad luck with injuries.

The U19's really stood up, Holroyd is developing rapidly and pressing for first team. He is not built as athletically as oledZki but is a natural RL player. He puts loads in, got sent off late on for throwing a punch after a high shot.

He then warmed up as 18th man with the first team. Had one of them gone down in the warm up, he would then have had to play again, I'm no sports scientist but that seemed a weird prospect.

Thought All the pack did well, the 2 who stood a bit higher for me were McConell who played the full 80 I think and kept going and going. Not the biggest but can play and very good temperament (as you know Seth).

The other one was Darley, more athletic, looks a tough kid and reminds me a bit of singleton. Again kept going.

Although we are suffering at prop in first team now, I would be signing back row men and be looking to bring through a crop of these. In the end the u19's did to Catalan what the Catalan first team pack did to Leeds.
Burrow looked a happy man.
Agree with Rhino Mark, get a new technical coach in, bring these through and improve the brand of football.

In addition to results, there is an extra pressure coming for McD. By next year there will be a top class new ground and a ton of corporate stuff to shift and a desire to fill the ground. That happens a lot easier with a Cas / Saints footballing product. If we are playing dead rubbers in August and September and crowds shrink that could be the tipping point.

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Quote: Mark Laurie "Sadly, both Sutcliffe and chpamn-smith were in leg braces And looked pretty bad. Fingers crossed for both who have had terrible bad luck with injuries.

The U19's really stood up, Holroyd is developing rapidly and pressing for first team. He is not built as athletically as oledZki but is a natural RL player. He puts loads in, got sent off late on for throwing a punch after a high shot.

He then warmed up as 18th man with the first team. Had one of them gone down in the warm up, he would then have had to play again, I'm no sports scientist but that seemed a weird prospect.

Thought All the pack did well, the 2 who stood a bit higher for me were McConell who played the full 80 I think and kept going and going. Not the biggest but can play and very good temperament (as you know Seth).

The other one was Darley, more athletic, looks a tough kid and reminds me a bit of singleton. Again kept going.

Although we are suffering at prop in first team now, I would be signing back row men and be looking to bring through a crop of these. In the end the u19's did to Catalan what the Catalan first team pack did to Leeds.
Burrow looked a happy man.
Agree with Rhino Mark, get a new technical coach in, bring these through and improve the brand of football.

In addition to results, there is an extra pressure coming for McD. By next year there will be a top class new ground and a ton of corporate stuff to shift and a desire to fill the ground. That happens a lot easier with a Cas / Saints footballing product. If we are playing dead rubbers in August and September and crowds shrink that could be the tipping point.'"

Good summary. Darleys an interesting one. In his 3rd year now and been under the radar compared to his peers. By all accounts he's a natural leader through his actions, loves training, bit of a machine when its gym time, turning himself into a good forward and starting to get some recognition. Be interesting to see what happens with him for nxt season.

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Sounds like someokne who would benefit from a proper reserve grade competition. Maturing a bit later but showing potential

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Agree with you both above. Particularly at prop there are advantages to developing more slowly and a bit later. I'd offer Darley a contract, he looks like he could keep improving. Both him and McConnell carried themselves like pro's. Johnson also is playing old man football (in a good way).

The kid Catalan had at 7, don't know his name could be a world beater.

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Quote: Mark Laurie "Agree with you both above. Particularly at prop there are advantages to developing more slowly and a bit later. I'd offer Darley a contract, he looks like he could keep improving. Both him and McConnell carried themselves like pro's. Johnson also is playing old man football (in a good way).

The kid Catalan had at 7, don't know his name could be a world beater.'"

Heard today that catalan are doing away with there 19's and a lot of them are heading to Toulouse, not sure if its true or not, anybody heard anything? Id certainly take there 7 here, he looked very good.

Id offer darley a contract aswel and let him have a season on loan at hunslet and see how he develops.

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Quote: Mark Laurie "Agree with you both above. Particularly at prop there are advantages to developing more slowly and a bit later. I'd offer Darley a contract, he looks like he could keep improving. Both him and McConnell carried themselves like pro's. Johnson also is playing old man football (in a good way).

The kid Catalan had at 7, don't know his name could be a world beater.'"


Arthur Morgues, he was the France u/18 star of the test series v England Academy last year.

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Quote: Mark Laurie "Sadly, both Sutcliffe and chpamn-smith were in leg braces And looked pretty bad. Fingers crossed for both who have had terrible bad luck with injuries.

The U19's really stood up, Holroyd is developing rapidly and pressing for first team. He is not built as athletically as oledZki but is a natural RL player. He puts loads in, got sent off late on for throwing a punch after a high shot.

He then warmed up as 18th man with the first team. Had one of them gone down in the warm up, he would then have had to play again, I'm no sports scientist but that seemed a weird prospect.

Thought All the pack did well, the 2 who stood a bit higher for me were McConell who played the full 80 I think and kept going and going. Not the biggest but can play and very good temperament (as you know Seth).

The other one was Darley, more athletic, looks a tough kid and reminds me a bit of singleton. Again kept going.

Although we are suffering at prop in first team now, I would be signing back row men and be looking to bring through a crop of these. In the end the u19's did to Catalan what the Catalan first team pack did to Leeds.
Burrow looked a happy man.
Agree with Rhino Mark, get a new technical coach in, bring these through and improve the brand of football.

In addition to results, there is an extra pressure coming for McD. By next year there will be a top class new ground and a ton of corporate stuff to shift and a desire to fill the ground. That happens a lot easier with a Cas / Saints footballing product. If we are playing dead rubbers in August and September and crowds shrink that could be the tipping point.'"


Loui could well have been a GB BMXer right now with the offer he had in that sport, I’m glad he did choose to stay with us as he was a terrific lad to coach, as you say, a very even temperament and also a very deceptive engine. If given the opportunity to play a little wider he’s some lovely soft skills, would have liked to see him forge a lasting link up with his junior half back team mate as they were telepathic. As an aside, I’m glad Burrow is looking after this side and not Morley.

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Quote: Seth "Loui could well have been a GB BMXer right now with the offer he had in that sport, I’m glad he did choose to stay with us as he was a terrific lad to coach, as you say, a very even temperament and also a very deceptive engine. If given the opportunity to play a little wider he’s some lovely soft skills, would have liked to see him forge a lasting link up with his junior half back team mate as they were telepathic. As an aside, I’m glad Burrow is looking after this side and not Morley.'"


You talking about Harrison Seth? Blew that one himself though, no patience. But would have been a good link up, I agree.

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Quote: Gotcha "You talking about Harrison Seth? Blew that one himself though, no patience. But would have been a good link up, I agree.'"

There’ll be some regrets of course though I feel for him the way they handled him last season. You know what it’s like, there’s always 2 versions. In part why I also think the team is far better off with Burrow and not Morley.

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Quote: Seth "There’ll be some regrets of course though I feel for him the way they handled him last season. You know what it’s like, there’s always 2 versions. In part why I also think the team is far better off with Burrow and not Morley.'"


Your right, and I always thought he was destined for good things. But, and I mean no disrespect, but from what I have heard, his parents haven’t helped his cause. Obviously as you say, two sides, and the handling playing a part in that.

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I’d love to complete that picture for you having been there every step, but not on here. Anyway, I hope to see him playing and enjoying the game again soon either amateur or otherwise as I’ve never coached a player so committed to bettering his game, he lived and breathed the game.

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Very good win for the 19's tonight, 38 - 6 over a pretty good Huddersfield team, we played over half the game with 12 men after dupree was sent off. Good response to last weeks dissapointing deafeat to hull.

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