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| Nothing wrong at all with Clarke's article. Get the blue and amber tinted specs off. Ferres could have broken Gildart's neck, and had ample time to realise what was happening in the tackle and stop it. He deserves every minute of 6 weeks.
The main thing is the hope that Gildart isn't permanently affected. Everything else, especially the length of Ferres' suspension is secondary IMO. The other big positive could be what Clarke alludes to and we don't see these tackles again.
Suspensions in the NRL led to them virtually being eradicated, which showed two things - firstly that they were only happening as a direct result of coached tactics involving wrestling, which were going wrong on the field, and secondly that even the dumbest players can avoid doing them.
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| I would like to think Clarke's interjection is to do with his similar career-ending injury when he was at his peak, rather than because it's Wigan. I can't disagree with much he says; Ferres does seem to have an arrogant, selfish attitude that manifests itself on & off the pitch.
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| On the face of it the article is fine, the question is one that Clarke had caused himself in that would he be writing the same thing if a Wigan player had done that to a Leeds player? This comment from him about the Ben Flower incident trying to turn it into some sort of positive for the sport makes me think not....
Quote: Phil Clarke "The incident and dismissal of Ben Flower gave the game some global exposure. Even coaching staff at the San Francesco 49ers were talking about it. What Ben Flower did was wrong, and he has been punished and apologised, but it reminded me of the media frenzy that took place about 20 years ago when Eric Cantona did his Kung-Fu type kick on the man in the crowd. Everybody in this country saw it and football’s exposure was huge. Some people think that the growth of the Premier League may even have been enhanced by Cantona’s moment of madness. I suspect that there will be some new followers to rugby league when the season kicks off. The speed and skill of the game is what attracts most people. But some love the physical contact when the man with the ball gets smashed to the ground. Some players need to get a bit angry to play at their best, and it’s that aggression that makes it so appealing to many'"
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| And there is the issue-things he's said previously.
However, this article is fine. No issue with it at all.
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| The point about the crusher tackle in the sport is fine imo but he clearly makes it about Ferres which he claims not to.
Also Printer points out what a hypocrite he is & did PC do a similar article when Bateman only got 3 games for a crusher??
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| Quote: ThePrinter "Do you think if the club made some statement on the issue that would've stopped Clarke from writing that?'"
Honestly?
Yes, it would have taken the heat out of the argument.
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| Quote: Ex-Swarcliffe Rhino "Honestly?
Yes, it would have taken the heat out of the argument.'"
How? The complaints are largely around the length of the ban and should we see much longer bans to stop these tackles happening. Leeds coming out saying Ferres has let the club down, teammates, himself etc. wouldn't have changed that.
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| Quote: Ex-Swarcliffe Rhino "Honestly?
Yes, it would have taken the heat out of the argument.'"
Disagree mate PC is & always will be an attention seeking hypocrite irrespective if a Club Coach or Player speaks out.
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| Quote: RHINO-MARK "Disagree mate PC is & always will be an attention seeking hypocrite irrespective if a Club Coach or Player speaks out.'"
Oh I have no doubt that the article would have appeared in some form or guise.
My "beef" as it were is its always sweep it under the carpet one minute, the next, decry it from the rooftops.
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| Quote: Ex-Swarcliffe Rhino "Oh I have no doubt that the article would have appeared in some form or guise.
My "beef" as it were is its always sweep it under the carpet one minute, the next, decry it from the rooftops.'"
Yes McDermott will decry something from the rooftops.....when he's interviewed. As far as I recall he wasn't asked about the incident post match and hasn't been interviewed since (I imagine later today).
GH doesn't come out when it involves player bans for or against with the exception of the Hardaker 2nd homophobic case which is a much different issue.
Who here really would go out of their way to condemn their own player as soon as possible? I very much doubt you'd be running to the press first thing Monday morning to throw Ferres under the bus if you were in the coaching position.
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| Quote: ThePrinter "Yes McDermott will decry something from the rooftops.....when he's interviewed. As far as I recall he wasn't asked about the incident post match and hasn't been interviewed since (I imagine later today).
GH doesn't come out when it involves player bans for or against with the exception of the Hardaker 2nd homophobic case which is a much different issue.
Who here really would go out of their way to condemn their own player as soon as possible? I very much doubt you'd be running to the press first thing Monday morning to throw Ferres under the bus if you were in the coaching position.'"
I meant Clurky, sorry that wasn't the clearest thing Ive ever written my bad.
However you are right. Thursday is our presser, he will be asked and I'm sure he will more than likely give a frank answer.
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| It's a shame Ferres has decided to appeal the decision. I thought he was a tad on the fortunate side to get 6 and should just have accepted that. Any apology now appears a little hollow in light of an appeal.
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| Hard heartedly I can see why he is.
Though IMO only, I agree with you.
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| Quote: Biff Tannen "It's a shame Ferres has decided to appeal the decision. I thought he was a tad on the fortunate side to get 6 and should just have accepted that. Any apology now appears a little hollow in light of an appeal.'"
McDermott has confirmed they won't be appealing the ban.
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| Quote: Joshheff90 "McDermott has confirmed they won't be appealing the ban.'"
Fair enough, hadn't seen that.
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