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| Quote: William Eve "I think his issues were there all along.
WRT his arrival at Leeds during the summer, he couldn't have dragged his heels more if he'd tried.
He made the best of it while he was in Leeds and talked everything up about his stay, but none of it was ever convincing. He was trying to convince himself more like.
As soon as he returned home, he will have known for definite he wasn't coming back.
I'm not prepared to belittle him for his choices. Homesickness might appear trivial and an excuse to some, but it's real to those who suffer from it. Not dealing with stuff like that can lead to depression and other mental health issues.
Anyone who reckons he ought to man up and serve out his contract at Leeds are @rseholes IMO. I include Leeds Rhinos management among them.'"
My son worked in Australia for four years and I can tell you homesickness is a very serious issue. His mother and I spent hundreds of hours on facetime, mobile phones etc, supporting him through that.
Segeyaro would not have realised how bad it was until he returned to Aus and then it would have hit him. Plenty on here have no idea and it shows in there abject dismissal of a serious problem.
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| Quote: William Eve "
Anyone who reckons he ought to man up and serve out his contract at Leeds are @rseholes IMO. I include Leeds Rhinos management among them.'"
come on William, you know peoples issues are related to how he signed the deal and talked it up.. he used the club and wiped his aris on the contract! i dont want any player at the club who doesn't want to be here, have always taken that stance, it should be an honour to wear the blue and amber.
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| Quote: Sal Paradise "My son worked in Australia for four years and I can tell you homesickness is a very serious issue. His mother and I spent hundreds of hours on facetime, mobile phones etc, supporting him through that.
Segeyaro would not have realised how bad it was until he returned to Aus and then it would have hit him. Plenty on here have no idea and it shows in there abject dismissal of a serious problem.'"
Having served in the Forces for over 12yrs i know full well how homesickness can develop & how it effects people.
What i will say is i completely disagree that he wouldn't have known until he got home also just watch the special feature that ch9 did with him for the footy show it was obvious then he was very much a "stay at home" type who suffered from it & he was only at Penrith then.
Like BF says just don't sign the deal & come clean no-one held a gun to his head nor is he still a naive kid.
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| Quote: Sal Paradise "My son worked in Australia for four years and I can tell you homesickness is a very serious issue. His mother and I spent hundreds of hours on facetime, mobile phones etc, supporting him through that.
Segeyaro would not have realised how bad it was until he returned to Aus and then it would have hit him. Plenty on here have no idea and it shows in there abject dismissal of a serious problem.'"
Indeed, and no amount of lovely weather, beach, surf, friends and socialising can compensate for homesickness either.
WRT perception of mental health issues, there's a very long way to go at all levels.
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| Quote: Biff Tannen "come on William, you know peoples issues are related to how he signed the deal and talked it up.. he used the club and wiped his aris on the contract!'"
I've no idea how he signed the deal... have you?
People are allowed to make mistakes, it's what makes them human.
People are also allowed to talk their situation up, it's often a coping mechanism.
People are also entitled to conclude they can't cope.
There was no wiping of any @ris on any contract either, apart from in the minds of fans who are bitter just because their club CEO and coach are bitter.
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| The Sharks only return to training following the Xmas break this coming Monday - I wouldn't be surprised to see a deal finalised in the coming days....
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| Quote: Superted "The Sharks only return to training following the Xmas break this coming Monday - I wouldn't be surprised to see a deal finalised in the coming days....'"
You'd hope so then everyone can move on.
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| Quote: William Eve "I've no idea how he signed the deal... have you?
People are allowed to make mistakes, it's what makes them human.
People are also allowed to talk their situation up, it's often a coping mechanism.
People are also entitled to conclude they can't cope.
There was no wiping of any @ris on any contract either, apart from in the minds of fans who are bitter just because their club CEO and coach are bitter.'"
kudos for turning this into a 'poor segeyaro held to ransom on the verge of a break down...' blah blah thread and 'bad bad CEO sheeple fans' in the space of one page, you do it so well
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| I see Southstander's very own Bash Brothers are at it again.
Take a day off lads, it'll do you good. All this negativity just can't be good for anyone.
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| Quote: Biff Tannen "kudos for turning this into a 'poor segeyaro held to ransom on the verge of a break down...' blah blah thread and 'bad bad CEO sheeple fans' in the space of one page, you do it so well
#PrayForChicko
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| Quote: William Eve "Not everyone is equipped with the requisite [i'mantality'[/i, unlike yourself of course.'"
How much [imantality[/i does it take to turn down a job you don't want in a country in which you've no desire to reside? I'm as capable of bottling difficult decisions as the next man but not signing seems a total no-brainer. Seems much more likely that there was a hefty dollop of opportunism thrown in.
That said, the club should be big enough to cut ties.
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| Quote: William Eve "I think his issues were there all along.
WRT his arrival at Leeds during the summer, he couldn't have dragged his heels more if he'd tried.
He made the best of it while he was in Leeds and talked everything up about his stay, but none of it was ever convincing. He was trying to convince himself more like.
As soon as he returned home, he will have known for definite he wasn't coming back.
I'm not prepared to belittle him for his choices. Homesickness might appear trivial and an excuse to some, but it's real to those who suffer from it. Not dealing with stuff like that can lead to depression and other mental health issues.
Anyone who reckons he ought to man up and serve out his contract at Leeds are @rseholes IMO. I include Leeds Rhinos management among them.'"
It has nothing to do with Homesickness, he signed for Leeds when nobody else wanted him. Employment or dole were his options.
Still with no other club willing to sign him he signed a contract extension with Leeds, no doubt for a fatter pay cheque if he took out the release clause.
Extract from Daily Telegraph 22-11-2016
FORMER Penrith hooker James Segeyaro needs a release from English club Leeds to have any chance of joining Cronulla next season.
The Sharks have told the rake to get a release from the final two seasons on his contract if he wants to return to the NRL at the premiers.
A source close to Cronulla said the club had previously expressed an interest in Segeyaro and would only re-enter discussions if Leeds granted him a release.
“We spoke with James prior to him taking up the option at Leeds,” the source said.
“He had to make a decision by the first of September, but he decided to take up the option.
“If he is granted a release, then we would be happy to continue discussions again.”
Simple really. Greed was his motivation. If truly home sick then would have not signed a two year contract and would not have been looking to move to Cronulla before arranging a release from his Rhinos contract.
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| The usual suspects may actually have some valid points on this matter (and others), the problem is they become invalid and sh it all over their actual opinions as they just always take the opposite position to the club and you can bet your life they would had leeds let Segeyaro go without resistance
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| Quote: Seth "The usual suspects may actually have some valid points on this matter (and others), the problem is they become invalid and sh it all over their actual opinions as they just always take the opposite position to the club and you can bet your life they would had leeds let Segeyaro go without resistance'"
O/T Seth you got any youngsters in our u15/u16's to look out for this year mate?
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| Quote: RHINO-MARK "O/T Seth you got any youngsters in our u15/u16's to look out for this year mate?'"
Hi mate, no I've taken retirement (for now at least) from 13 years coaching. Looking forward to standing back for a change and seeing the 19s at various clubs including Harrison Scott and loui mcconnell at Leeds
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