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Quote: Juan Cornetto "I see Dorn, Gale, Maher and Flynn of their "missing" players in their 19 then!'"

Flynns only just joined & Maher is a back up player HTH.

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Quote: RHINO-MARK "Flynns only just joined & Maher is a back up player HTH.'"


But they were both on the missing list which was the point being made.

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Still got 4 or 5 of our first 13 out though.
Shenton
Lynch
Olli Holmes
Ben Roberts
Natahan Massey possibly.

Not as bad as a few week ago though.

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Cas by plenty....with post exclamations that the next match is a "must win" game and we need McGuire, Moon and Hall to turn the season around.

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Quote: nantwichexile "Cas by plenty....with post exclamations that the next match is a "must win" game and we need McGuire, Moon and Hall to turn the season around.'"

How many must win games have Leeds played (AND LOST) already? icon_lol.gif

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This discussion of who has most men out is meaningless - what counts is what the men on the field actually produce and how they carryout the coach`s tactics / game plan.
We have just demonstrated against a poor Huddersfield team that we can"t execute 5 hit ups & a kick on a consistent basis , the coach can`t pick 17 triers,refuses to give young forwards a chance, we have no plan to stop the opposition star player etc - this is down to one person - the Coach.
If you want further proof - look at the Cas performance with a prop at halfback - they still had dummy runners / planned moves & a reliable kicking game - we have none of these.

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Quote: Gotcha "Yes they are, in comparison of course to Leeds 7, which still makes the same scenario. Lets see if the four play for Cas though, because Gale is certainly touch and go.'"


Cas All the Way just said they have 4 maybe 5 out injured whereas didn't you just say we have 7? Remind me of the scenario again.

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Quote: Juan Cornetto "Cas All the Way just said they have 4 maybe 5 out injured whereas didn't you just say we have 7? Remind me of the scenario again.'"


Learn to read a post properly and you might finally be able to make points on here. He actually said out of their first choice thirteen, not out of their squad. You are still clutching at straws on a pointless excuse. And you are still doing it by assuming Massey and Gale are playing.

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Quote: Sal Paradise "You simply don't get it do you - it isn't about replacing players it is about whether those replacements would actually improve the team?

Would Hall or Briscoe be an improvement on how Handley is playing? Yes they probably would be selected ahead of him doesn't mean they will perform any better.

Delaney has struggled to play more 20 effective minutes in any game this year so his inclusion would be a detriment to the side - Keinhorst offers far more.

Falloon has shown he isn't good enough at this level, his inclusion will weaken the side

So we are now down to 7 - I would agree Hardaker, a winger, Moon, McGuire and Ward would make a difference. So would Roberts, Shenton, Gale and Mariano for Cas - so have Leeds really got it that much worse than other sides - compare it Wigan I would say not.'"


What don't I get?
T.Briscoe and Hall or Handley and L.Briscoe?
Hardaker or Golding?
Moon or Keinhorst?
McGuire or Sutcliffe?
Ablett or Achurch?
Ward or JJB?
Cuthbertson or Smith?
Delaney or Walters?
Falloon or Burrow?

All of the above would be an improvement, although I'd keep Keinhorst in the side ahead of Ferres or Singleton.

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Quote: Stevosfalseteeth "What don't I get?
T.Briscoe and Hall or Handley and L.Briscoe?
Hardaker or Golding?
Moon or Keinhorst?
McGuire or Sutcliffe?
Ablett or Achurch?
Ward or JJB?
Cuthbertson or Smith?
Delaney or Walters?
Falloon or Burrow?
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You can't have most of those above because apparently it's a 100% guarantee that they'll still be in poor form when they return.

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Quote: Gotcha "Learn to read a post properly and you might finally be able to make points on here. He actually said out of their first choice thirteen, not out of their squad. You are still clutching at straws on a pointless excuse. And you are still doing it by assuming Massey and Gale are playing.'"


I can read allright that they have 4 or 5 missing and we have 7 missing of our first choice 13s and we can't assume McGuire or Hardaker will play either as we have had to name injured playes each week in he 19. You are in denial regarding the very serious handicaps we have had all season.

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Quote: Juan Cornetto "I can read allright that they have 4 or 5 missing and we have 7 missing of our first choice 13s and we can't assume McGuire or Hardaker will play either as we have had to name injured playes each week in he 19. You are in denial regarding the very serious handicaps we have had all season.'"


Translation to that is that you realise you were wrong the other day, so are now changing the goal posts to try and make another point. The point made the other day is exactly the same, Cas have more players missing than we do. Not that it is relevant to what is said, but we actually have six not seven of our first thirteen missing, and even that is debatable depending on whether Ferres should be first choice. Which could very well be the same for Cas tonight also.

Nobody is playing down our difficulties this year, it's just you and others fail to realise that other teams have similar experiences and it is those we should be comparing our results to.

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Quote: Stevosfalseteeth "What don't I get?
T.Briscoe and Hall or Handley and L.Briscoe?
Hardaker or Golding?
Moon or Keinhorst?
McGuire or Sutcliffe?
Ablett or Achurch?
Ward or JJB?
Cuthbertson or Smith?
Delaney or Walters?
Falloon or Burrow?

All of the above would be an improvement, although I'd keep Keinhorst in the side ahead of Ferres or Singleton.'"


Let's be more realistic

Two of the players you wanted back returned and the losing margin was greater - how does that fit with your theory?

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i fancy leeds by 11-15 and got odds of 13/2
just think sooner or later we will click and tonights the night

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Cas plus 8 must be the best 5/6 shot for a long time

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