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Quote: craigizzard "Examples over the last couple of years where Burrow has "turned games" please.'"


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Quote: craigizzard "*silence*'"


I'll help the lad out.........

Hull KR At home last year, 0-0 for 60 mins, burrow came on for his second stint and stretched them to pieces!

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Quote: Claypitrhino "I'll help the lad out.........

Hull KR At home last year, 0-0 for 60 mins, burrow came on for his second stint and stretched them to pieces!'"


Thanks! Knew if must have happened once in the past few years. But also knew that "Because Burrow was unable for once to turn a game around for us" was a black-is-white statement, even by Juan's standards.

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Most would agree that Burrow's most effective when running at tired defences. It's only fair to raise the question of whether opposition defences are reduced to the state of tiredness that they once were, in addition to looking at the level to which Burrow himself is performing.

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Quote: Clearwing "Most would agree that Burrow's most effective when running at tired defences. It's only fair to raise the question of whether opposition defences are reduced to the state of tiredness that they once were, in addition to looking at the level to which Burrow himself is performing.'"


And it is also worth realising the negative effect it has on the team from a defensive perspective when you bring him on. This needs levelling against any pro's. It's fine if you are already well up in a game, and the opposition is stretched. But if the game is in the balance and you are winning, protecting a lead, it's such a no go, and a wasted sub spot.

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Quote: Gotcha "And it is also worth realising the negative effect it has on the team from a defensive perspective when you bring him on. This needs levelling against any pro's. It's fine if you are already well up in a game, and the opposition is stretched. But if the game is in the balance and you are winning, protecting a lead, it's such a no go, and a wasted sub spot.'"


I'd agree with what you've just stated but the example I gave just defies that.

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Quote: Claypitrhino "I'd agree with what you've just stated but the example I gave just defies that.'"



No it doesn't. Your example was over 12 months ago. The team has changed since then.

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Quote: Gotcha "And it is also worth realising the negative effect it has on the team from a defensive perspective when you bring him on. This needs levelling against any pro's. It's fine if you are already well up in a game, and the opposition is stretched. But if the game is in the balance and you are winning, protecting a lead, it's such a no go, and a wasted sub spot.'"


Yes, I'd go with that. Nonetheless, our problems go deeper than a fading Burrow. Others have declined too although unfortunately for RB (and fortunately for them) it is far more obvious in a back than in a forward.

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Quote: Clearwing "Most would agree that Burrow's most effective when running at tired defences. It's only fair to raise the question of whether opposition defences are reduced to the state of tiredness that they once were, in addition to looking at the level to which Burrow himself is performing.'"


Whilst I wouldn't have Burrow in my strongest 17 next year, it would be interesting if the talk of reducing the number of interchanges came to fruition. Less chance for the opposition to rest and rotate their big guys which would help Burrow I guess.

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Quote: Gotcha "No it doesn't. Your example was over 12 months ago. The team has changed since then.'"


Barely, cuthbertson and ward are pretty much the only difference upon a week on week basis. We attack differently. Neither of which would change burrows role from that day to now so like I said your point contradicts.

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Quote: Claypitrhino "Barely, cuthbertson and ward are pretty much the only difference upon a week on week basis. We attack differently. Neither of which would change burrows role from that day to now so like I said your point contradicts.'"


P.S m example was under 11 months ago icon_wink.gif

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Quote: Claypitrhino "Barely, cuthbertson and ward are pretty much the only difference upon a week on week basis. We attack differently. Neither of which would change burrows role from that day to now so like I said your point contradicts.'"


No it doesn't. We have slower halfs that are also defending out wide. We may have the same names on the team sheet, but not the same team.

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Burrows role is still the same when it comes to attacking, like I said I would agree with you but that example contradicts, take a look at that game, out halfs haven't lost that much pace in 11 months I'll tell you and they were defending wide at that stage too.

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Quote: craigizzard "Examples over the last couple of years where Burrow has "turned games" please.'"



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Quote: craigizzard " craigizzard wrote

So sorry - but unlike you I had some work to attend to.

Thanks to Claypitrhino for reminding you of Burrow's MOM game changing performance against Hull KR last year and as I commented upon earlier in this thread he came on and made a positive impact against Hull KR last month too. Then against Salford in April this year he came on with the game in the balance and made a scored a game changing try with further positive contributions for Leeds to win 28-18. In the away game against Catalans this year he again played his part in coming from behind in the second half with two important try assists.

In this last game, against Wigan, Burrow would most likely have been the MOM had Handley twice made the obvious pass to him as it is his ability to back up at the right time that provides game changing opportunities that few others can match. Even in the drawn game against Huddersfield although he slipped and failed to make the winning score, he demonstrated his ability to increase our scoring chances.

Over the past two years Burrow has missed a lot of rugby with injuries and he has carried a niggling ham string which has had a negative effect on his performances. He has had little game time to get back into top form but this doesn't mean he is past it as my above points prove. Given an injury free run I feel sure he will be providing some more game changing impact as the season wears on.

But I do not expect you to agree with me on this as we obviously read the game in different ways. Yours is perhaps a more Eddie Izzard opinion than a Craig one icon_wink.gif

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Quote: Juan Cornetto "In this last game, against Wigan, Burrow would most likely have been the MOM had Handley twice made the obvious pass to him as it is his ability to back up at the right time that provides game changing opportunities that few others can match. '"


Oh now really. A man of the match performance for twice running 20 yards after others had created the opportunity?

Careful that reality doesn't hit you when the elastic on it snaps back.

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