I have to disagree he's a side step away from making the tackle, by that point huby is strolling back

Just got back. Thought we we were not that good in the first half to be honest, as Huddersfield were the worst side I have seen this year. Things went our way first half, and we threw the ball about, but with no plan at all.

When things went against us second half, for the second week running we had nobody to step up and lead the side. That was a game situation we would have won any time over last 12 years with Sinfield out there. You can't just cut him off if you don't have a replacement. That doesn't mean another stand off, that means a proper leader/captain. I don't care where he plays, but he should be out there to manage players, that quite obviously don't have a brain at times. I mean, the way that bloody drop goal was handled was ridiculous.

On the game thought Delaney and JJB were fantastic. Other than that, I couldn't pick anyone. Why still persist with Burrow I just don't know.

Oh and Silverwood is useless. A very inconsistent poor Ref.

Since when were defenders expected to sidestep dummy runners?

Huby intentionally made contact. He wasnt strolling anywhere he just turned on the spot, he knew exactly what he was doing. Yes Cuthbertson milked it a bit but that shouldn't effect whether its an obstruction or not

Not watched it yet...what happened?

Does look like i might be best just watching first half only.

I stated McDermott needed to be ruthless enough to not have both Sinfield and Burrow on the bench...still it was hard to believe he actually did it.
It's hard to comprehend we have moved so quickly from having the first selected on the team sheet as undisputable captain to not been selected at all.
Talk about "falling off the edge of a cliff"

Hard to see what influence Sinfield could have had in that second half, given we had something like 30% of the possession thanks to penalty after penalty. Think Silverwood must have been reminded at half-time that it was a Leeds game, because he certainly reverted to type.

First 40 I thought we were controlled, clinical, kicked pretty well and bossed the game. Hard to do much in a game when you don't have the ball though.

Out of interest, why was Wardle marched ten metres for clapping a Silverwood decision, while Brough gave the TJ dog's abuse and Silverwood just turned a blind eye and deaf ear to it? Good player he might be, but at times - usually when his team is struggling - Brough is an embarrassment to the sport. Wouldn't want him in a Leeds shirt.

Oh, and why on that last play is Burrow trying to step back inside? He's got a player looping around to get onto his left shoulder, just needed a simple straighten, draw and pass to create the try.

With all due respect I think you need to watch it again I'm not talking about 'sidestepping the dummy runner' cuthbertson was stalking huby back as the player came through, all he had to do was step to the side and make the tackle and stop the try, he was that close. You can disagree that's your opinion but I think if you watch it over there's no doubt cuthbertson should/could make that tackle

Ah so that's what Burrow "did" ... Sounds like a typical Burrow 'move' ...

I think your missing my point (probably due to my slightly tongue in cheek phrasing).

Huby deliberately ran into Cuthbertson*. To then somehow put the burden on Cuthbertson to get around Huby (as you suggest and seemingly as the VR believes) is as ridiculous as last season when tries were being chalked off for theoretical obstruction with no defender anywhere nearby.

*in his initial run he actually stepped sideways and out his shoulder across Cuthbertson just as he reached the line

Because he wanted to be the hero and win the game and show the coach he should be starting..no doubt.

In fairness having watched it several times since to check on sides/possible knock ones etc, I think he'd overrun the pass from Ablett or at least Ablett in trying to force the offload when been tackled threw it slightly behind him meaning burrow was turning his back towards his own try line to bring the pass in and on trying to spin round he slipped.

Must confess though live and on watching the 1st reply I was screaming at him on the TV for bombing the winning try with 2 men outside him in acres of space and for trying to step inside to take the glory himself.

To me he looked like he was making more effort to look obstructed than get around the man. Try was fair for me

But he shouldn't [ihave [/ito get around him. Huby had no right to be there in the defensive line.

Yeah I completely accept that's what's happened, but surely it's better to make the tackle if possible rather than relying on the officials to give the obstruction? Arguably if he'd made the tackle/attempted and couldn't quite get there and stop the try because of huby being there, we'd have stood a much better chance of the obstruction being given?

I just hope if there's a next time with same situation, he learns from tonight and does something more IF possible

There was barely any contract, and the ball was well away. Cuthbo should have slid across to cover the gap but looks like he has a little rest, and if anything moves into huby

exactly this, if Cuthbertson is having to take a different route because of Huby, by definition Huby is obstructing him. That's what obstruction is. Being in the way. The player ran through a gap created by his colleagues presence in the defensive line, if that isn't obstruction, what do we have an obstruction rule for? Especially considering the nonsensical decision he gave against Hardaker in the first half.

Some have mentioned Sinfield and decision making and leadership, all I can say is this, on the back of an unbelievably lopsided penalty count, against one of the top half backs in SL, against an incredible lack of ball and having to do an incredible amount of defensive work, we only conceded 16 points against one of the better teams in the league and could/should have won it.

I don't know what Sinfield would have done better against that. Im a huge fan of him and think he still has contributions to make this year, but in that 2nd half we were just constantly starved of ball by penalties and drop outs. When we had it, we made good metres and created chances. But I don't think any other team in SL would have been in the game facing what we faced in the 2nd half.

Its an odd thing to say considering we lost the 2nd half 16 points to 2 but it really was an outstanding effort.