IMO it is pointless seeking to blame individual players or the coach for this defeat. It was one of those occasions when one team is under par on the night while the other team put in an enthusiastic and almost faultless display add to that a ref who should have been aided by a white stick and past form goes out the window.

Apart from the first five minutes and the Watkins try nothing went right for us so no matter what we tried the momentum remained against us. So perhaps we should just congratulate Warrington and move on.

On the positive side Ward put in his now usual big effort and I thought Achurch went ok.

I don't think there is too much to worry about from a Leeds perspective, as a previous poster said you just ran into a more enthusiastic team on the night, that's sport it happens, easily the best team in the comp for me. I think that missing half of the best backline in SL doesn't help matters, I love playing Leeds as always get an honest game, no shiiithouse tactics like attacking the standing leg and always classy. I can't see how people can have a pop at Childs to be honest, had no bearing on the game at all.

My thoughts: The attitude was wrong right from the offset, they didn't look anywhere near as focused as last week - perhaps they thought Warrington were there for the taking? The momentum was lost from the start and was never recovered throughout the game - Warrington appeared to want it more.

Team selection was wrong for me, even last week Ablett showed his days of playing centre are over and to play our most potent attacking player on the wing defies logic. I have suggested playing Hardaker on the wing and Golding at FB. Not ideal but at least disruption is minimised and you do bring Hardaker more into the running game. I would have started Sinfield, he didn't add much when he came on but the game was gone by then. He would have contributed more than Delanney who was - as usual - panting after ten minutes.

Performance was poor - forwards lost virtually every collision and were totally dominated, the rotation of the substitutes didn't help one iota - if you are going to select players they should be good enough to contribute or don't select them. Did McDermott seriously think Leeds had any chance of winning with 20 minutes to go!! so he couldn't risk Mulhern - seriously. Aiton was as bad this week as he was good last week both Clark and Hingham had his number and it caused huge problems down the middle. Peacock looked his age - he cannot be expected to play these minutes week after week and neither can Cuthbertson. If this continues both will unable to make a contribution when it matters after the split. Burrow I am struggling to see what he has to offer unless the pack is totally dominant - in which case his USP is not required. Get him on the coaching staff before somebody else does.

Warrington showed what a good side the are when they get their act together - Myler ran the game MOM by a mile, Sims showed the nastiness you want from a prop, Hill and Harrison also standout performances. Clark put together his best performance I have seen in a Warrington jersey - this is what you could have had!! They will be there or there abouts come the end of season shake up.

On Child he was poor but if you are always losing the collision your PTB will look slow and theirs quick. The forward pass for the second try was a bad miss but the game wasn't lost because of Child's poor display. Warrington had Leeds' number from the start and cruelly exposed Leeds' shortcomings on the night.

I'd like you to elaborate on how Childs6 performance was inept?

I thought he was really inconsistent last night, and ignored some pretty clear calls. Need to see the replay though, as that was at match.

One match though isn't going to form my opinion. Do you think Ablett is an awful player after last night? It works both ways.

To be fair Ablett has been poor all year - a shadow of the player he has been - I would be looking to give him 3/4 weeks off to see if that can freshen him up

Wardy passed his previous best I think, and made 58 tackles last night. But Peacock also 46 tackles, no wonder he looked so buggered.

The stats don't really match the game. We actually had more ball, more carries than Wire did. I suppose a key there is we did almost double the amount of errors as them.

I think you're somehow failing to grasp my point here, you said he is the second best in the league, I said before last night that he's been absolutely terrible all season and he showed that 'form' last night again, he should not be a super league ref IMO, look at hicks performances and look at his, I'd take hicks reffing us over him 7 days a week.

I agree. One of those bad day at the office games. They'll always happen, all that matters is how we bounce back in the next games (something we were very poor at last season but over the last 10 years have otherwise been excellent at)

On sky Phil Clarke argued that pass was OK, completely ignoring that the tackle was on the 20m line and the ball received in front (with no momentum involved as it was a pass out of a tackle by a stationary player). He really does have no limit on his bias

We looked flat and off the pace, Warrington were very good (they are/will be real contenders at the business end), but we made them look good too. Way too many errors and nothing sticking/nothing clicking...bad day at the office, that's sport. Let's see how well we bounce back against our recent 'bogey' team - Huddersfield

Why are you all on about how the last time Child reffed for you, there was "that incident" with Hardaker?

Are you suggesting it was undeserved punishment?

I said Thaler was by far the best in the league. I said Child would be second, ahead of the completely awful Silverwood and Bentham. So I think you are playing it a bit, to make out I was referring to him as anything good. Despite my feelings on Silverwood and Bentham, in 37 years of watching the game I have never seen a worse ref than Hicks, so I completely ignore him from any discussion. Hopefully that lad might improve too like Child has over the years.

Due to the fact you haven't had child as a ref for 12 months the rest of us have had to suffer him more. Just read the YEP less than flattering comments about him. Hudds have had to put up with him more than most. He is truly shocking, and win or lose much of the talk after the game has been about child and not what the players did- that tells its own story. it's about time you lot had to put up with it again - long may it continue- just as long as it's not next week!!!!

Think Huddersfield will win this match...but Leeds will bounce back and beat you in the CC of course.