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Quote: Him "How would a 10 team league work with regard fixtures?
And why would a 2nd 10 team league be viewed as part of SL rather than a 2nd division?'"

Why don't you ask JP himself?

I haven't advocated 10 teams.

An increasing number of people (including JP) believe the current structure is broken and that there must be change before it's too late.

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Quote: William Eve "Why don't you ask JP himself?

I haven't advocated 10 teams.

An increasing number of people (including JP) believe the current structure is broken and that there must be change before it's too late.'"

No you tried to use JP's article to back up your own view that there should be a return of P&R and 5-team playoff. But Peacock only advocated a return of those principles within a licensed 2 leagues of 10 team structure. So either you agree with the principle of 10 team leagues or Peacock's article doesn't support your view.

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Quote: Him "No you tried to use JP's article to back up your own view that there should be a return of P&R'"

Peacock is advocating a return to P&R.

Quote: Him "and 5-team playoff.'"

Peacock is also advocating a 5 team play-off system.

Quote: Him "But Peacock only advocated a return of those principles within a licensed 2 leagues of 10 team structure.'"

He also admitted there are flaws in any proposal (that would include his own) but reckons [i"we have enough smart people within the game to iron them out"[/i. They'll have to get rid of the current incumbents at the RFL first!

Quote: Him "So either you agree with the principle of 10 team leagues or Peacock's article doesn't support your view.'"

Mutual support for the return of P&R alongside a 5 team play-off system is not dependent upon mutual support for the principle of a 10 team league.

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Quote: William Eve "You need to stalk JP instead because rlhe doesn't believe SL is "super" any longer eitherrl.

Top 5 play-off system and a return to P&R by plenty
And that has WHAT to do with a Challenge Cup tie between Leeds and Castleford at Headingley???

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Allegedly Rangi's last game for Cas Vegas, should add some spice.

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Quote: Ex-Swarcliffe Rhino "Allegedly Rangi's last game for Cas Vegas, should add some spice.'"


I've heard several stories from different folk - some saying he's had his last game already, some, like yourself, saying that Friday will be his final run out for Cas and others saying he's going no-where.

Without Chase Cas will really be on their arris.

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Quote: Fat Boy "I've heard several stories from different folk - some saying he's had his last game already, some, like yourself, saying that Friday will be his final run out for Cas and others saying he's going no-where.

Without Chase Cas will really be on their arris.'"



Without Chase, the Super League competiton is diminished also. On his game, he is the most magical player currently playing in this comp.

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Quote: William Eve "You need to stalk JP instead because rlhe doesn't believe SL is "super" any longer eitherrl.

Top 5 play-off system and a return to P&R by plenty He does believe Super League is still super. Read it again, without making things up to try and fit your own bias.

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Quote: William Eve "Peacock is advocating a return to P&R.

Peacock is also advocating a 5 team play-off system.

He also admitted there are flaws in any proposal (that would include his own) but reckons [i"we have enough smart people within the game to iron them out"[/i. They'll have to get rid of the current incumbents at the RFL first!

Mutual support for the return of P&R alongside a 5 team play-off system is not dependent upon mutual support for the principle of a 10 team league.

HTH'"

Wrong William, Peacock is advocating a return of P&R only between a 2-tier, 20 team SL that is licensed. Peacock is also only advocating a 5 team playoff system in a 10 team league.

Peacock's support, from that article anyway, most certainly is dependent on the principle of a 10 team league.

You got carried away there didn't you? You should've read the article properly.

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Quote: Gotcha "Without Chase, the Super League competiton is diminished also. On his game, he is the most magical player currently playing in this comp.'"

Completely disagree but that aside he doesn't have those "magical days" consistently enough and even more so at International level to warrant the hype imo.

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Quote: rhinoms "Completely disagree but that aside he doesn't have those "magical days" consistently enough and even more so at International level to warrant the hype imo.'"

he does it more than most though, and likely more than whoever replaces him.

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Quote: rhinoms "Completely disagree but that aside he doesn't have those "magical days" consistently enough and even more so at International level to warrant the hype imo.'"



That's rubbish rhinoms. You seem to have always held this view on Chase of not liking him. Like him or not, there is no getting away from the fact that he is one hell of a magical player when on form. He correctly got MOS the other year as he was by far the best player in the comp that year. Last year was a troubled year for him, although certain times we saw that magic. You only have to look at the last two Cas games on Sky, to see what he can do. Nobody else in this competition has a passing game to match Chase, simple as that. Indeed as a Leeds fan you only have to look at the game there this year, where he was a million miles ahead of any other player on the field that day.

People get too up on themselves about broken field runners, and there is no doubt the likes of Tomkins, Burrow, etc, do damage that way. But a passing game of the likes of Chase is something to admire from a far, as it is that sort of game that really damages the oppossition and is harder to defend.

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Quote: SmokeyTA "He does believe Super League is still super. Read it again, without making things up to try and fit your own bias.'"

If Peacock really believed Super League was still super, he wouldn't be claiming [i"The league seems to slowly be eroding, like the coast against the tide"[/i and advocating major changes to the structure involving the return of P&R and a 5-team play-off system. If he really believed it was still super, he wouldn't be worried that it's going to fail therefore it's better to stand on one's feet and die trying rather than live one one's knees. He also believes that the great administrators are pro-active and strategise; they don’t wait for something to happen before taking action. That's a call by Peacock for the RFL to prove their worthiness as administrators and do their job properly before it's too late and the damage to the game is irreparable. Comprehend it again, without reading what you want to read into it in order to fit your own bias.

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Broken field running relies a lot on good fortune, with a large element of skill don't get me wrong, but the threat that Chase has on his day is the ability to break down some very well organised defence. He clearly has his negatives and can occassionally be accused of looking for the 'miracle' ball, but he always challenges a defence.

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Quote: Him "Wrong William, Peacock is advocating a return of P&R only between a 2-tier, 20 team SL that is licensed. Peacock is also only advocating a 5 team playoff system in a 10 team league.

Peacock's support, from that article anyway, most certainly is dependent on the principle of a 10 team league.

You got carried away there didn't you? You should've read the article properly.'"

You appear to be having difficulty in comprehending what Peacock is actually saying. He's advocating the return of P&R to establish the future composition of the elite division. Any movement of clubs between the elite division and the one below shall be via P&R and definitely NOT via the now discredited licensing process. He's also advocating a 5 team play-off system. At no stage has he said that for these necessary changes to take place, they must be entirely dependent upon the setting up of two divisions of ten teams, otherwise do nothing at all.

I have only advocated the return of P&R, the scrapping of licensing between the elite division and the division below, and the return of the Top 5 play-off system. I am happy that JP agrees with me on these vital changes to the structure of the game which are desperately required in order to avoid the sport ending up on it's knees. At no stage have I ever advocated two divisions of 10 teams. If you have a problem with 10 teams, feel free to contact JP with your concerns with regard to his views on that. He's on twitter.

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