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Quote: Saville Row "Yet the big screen showed ' scrum defence' but the scum was given to the attack, very confusing ??'"


It was correct.

Leeds were defending.

Hodgson was driving the ball out, Leeds tackling.

Even Silverwood was confused TBF.

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Is that the Cummings explanation we'll be reading tomorrow.

So presumably Silverwood and Bentham use the same term to indicate the opposite - that can't be great for consistency between officials.

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Quote: dboy "
Even Silverwood was confused TBF.'"



Let's be fair that wouldn't take [ithat[/i much to do

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Quote: William Eve "My impression was the penalty for obstruction against Briers was harsh for exactly the same reasons as you've pointed out above. Sometimes they are given, but far more often than not they aren't. As you say, Senior made a career out of far more blatant obstructions and rarely got penalised for them.

Had the penalty not been awarded against Briers, I think there was a fair chance Warrington would have scored from the Joel Monaghan break with 5 more tackles left as Leeds players were struggling to get back.'"


My impression was that it was obstruction. While I agree senior did similar for years doesn't stop this being obstruction. He ran into position to get in the way and wasn't even looking at the ball just at hall. Not a sin bin though thought was right decision. Regarding briers knock on, personally didn't think it was a knock on frOm where I was.

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The video ref was ruling on Leeds potentially scoring a try so for me Leeds were the attacking side & this would avoid any confusion - I suspect this should have been the case. I could see why some would think otherwise. No big deal & easily cleared up by Silverwood

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Quote: tvoc " but thinking about it again this morning I can also see the ball travelling forwards from the point of Briers touch before the momentum of the ball in the direction it was travelling from the kick overrides that force.'"


Unfortunately ‘A body continues in a state of rest or uniform motion in a straight line unless acted on by an external force’
If the ball had been moving forward after hitting Briers it would not be able to change direction again unless it hit something else. A previous ‘momentum’ that it might have had is irrelevant.
That Sir Isaac Newton knew a thing or two about Rugby League.

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Clearly I don't know how to post quotes! Serves me right for being a clever clogs.

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Quote: Ferdy "My impression was that it was obstruction. While I agree senior did similar for years doesn't stop this being obstruction. He ran into position to get in the way and wasn't even looking at the ball just at hall.'"

These type of professional obstructions happen in most games you'll ever watch. My point is they are rarely penalised, hence why I consider the penalty against Briers yesterday as harsh. Leeds got lucky.

Quote: Ferdy "Not a sin bin though thought was right decision.'"

Only the one-eyed or blinkered would consider it as such.

Quote: Ferdy "Regarding briers knock on, personally didn't think it was a knock on frOm where I was.'"

It most definitely wasn't a knock on.

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Quote: wires4ever "Sir Isaac Newton'"


Warrington fan is he?

Well all I can say to that is this Newton fella would have known differently if he'd ever bothered to stand next to me on't terrace. Maybe it would have saved him making such an a[irs[/ie of himself.

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Quote: Andy R "The video ref was ruling on Leeds potentially scoring a try so for me Leeds were the attacking side & this would avoid any confusion - I suspect this should have been the case. I could see why some would think otherwise. No big deal & easily cleared up by Silverwood'"


Well I didn't think it was confusing, but given that you read it differently, it clearly is.

This is not to say that you are wrong, which you are, simply that it has caused confusion.

Even though I understood the ruling without any problem, I agree it can be confusing and perhaps they can use some better terminology in future??

I know "Scrum Leeds" - how hard can it be????

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[quote="G1":1x8x7ghm]Nice one Andy. You articulated a differing opinion given reasons and substance. There's really no place for the likes of you on Substandard. :wink:[/quote:1x8x7ghm]:7098.jpg



Quote: dboy "Well I didn't think it was confusing, but given that you read it differently, it clearly is.

This is not to say that you are wrong, which you are, simply that it has caused confusion.

Even though I understood the ruling without any problem, I agree it can be confusing and perhaps they can use some better terminology in future??

I know "Scrum Leeds" - how hard can it be????'"


You're so sure I am wrong are you?

The video referee was asked to decide whether Leeds had scored a try. Leeds in the process of scoring that try would have been the attacking team. I'm pretty sure any time the video ref is judging a try the team scoring are deemed to be the attacking team.

Forgive me for thinking you might be wrong.

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Quote: Andy R "You're so sure I am wrong are you?

The video referee was asked to decide whether Leeds had scored a try. Leeds in the process of scoring that try would have been the attacking team. I'm pretty sure any time the video ref is judging a try the team scoring are deemed to be the attacking team.

Forgive me for thinking you might be wrong.'"



At the point of "the incident" which the VR was asked to look at, Wire was attacking, Leeds defending.

The result of the VR adjudicating on the incident is Wire knock-on (no advantage to be taken) = scrum defense.

Silverwood also asked if there was anything in the tackle, suspecting a penalty to Wire.

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Quote: dboy "At the point of "the incident" which the VR was asked to look at, Wire was attacking, Leeds defending.

The result of the VR adjudicating on the incident is Wire knock-on (no advantage to be taken)

Regardless of all that the video referee is trying to determine whether Leeds have scored a try and Leeds are therefore the attacking team.

Silverwood and the players from their reactions thought that meant the scrum was a Warrington one as well.

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Clearly you have misunderstood the ruling, so there is indeed confusion.

Why take it as a dig at you? It's not.

I imagine there may be some change to the terminology shortly, to avoid similar confusion in the future.

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Quote: dboy "Clearly you have misunderstood the ruling, so there is indeed confusion.

Why take it as a dig at you? It's not.

I imagine there may be some change to the terminology shortly, to avoid similar confusion in the future.'"


I'm not taking it as a dig.

I think you're wrong.

I think it's pretty simple to understand and you're struggling.

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