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Quote: Andy Gilder "I don't remember seeing Hardaker playing much (if any) in the halves at Fev - mind you he was behind the prodigious talents of Kyle Briggs, Liam Finn and Andy Kain so it's easy to see why he played most of the season on the wing.

Is he trying to do a Karl Pratt but in reverse? Wasn't Pratt signed as a half but ended up establishing himself on the wing instead?'"

I've seen briggs play for Bradford. If he is behind him lets keep him on the wing!!!

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Quote: G1 "When he was selected to play international rugby.'"


Being selected to play international rugby league and then performing like a dud against credible international opposition does not equate to being an international class player.

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Quote: Andy Gilder "I don't remember seeing Hardaker playing much (if any) in the halves at Fev - mind you he was behind the prodigious talents of Kyle Briggs, Liam Finn and Andy Kain so it's easy to see why he played most of the season on the wing.

Is he trying to do a Karl Pratt but in reverse? Wasn't Pratt signed as a half but ended up establishing himself on the wing instead?'"


Memory is not what it was but didn't he play SO at Bradford a few times?

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I have a feeling Pratt played at halfback in either a WCC or GF?

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Quote: batleyrhino "I have a feeling Pratt played at halfback in either a WCC or GF?'"

The former. 2004. He and Pryce were looking to form a half decent partnership early season, before Caisley pulled of the master stroke of signing Harris. icon_biggrin.gif

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Quote: El Barbudo "Memory is not what it was but didn't he play SO at Bradford a few times?'"


At Leeds Pratt made 66 starts

Pratt played at stand off alongside Deacon in the 2003 GF for Bradford V Wigan. 2004 he started on the bench. Those were his two Grand Final appearances.

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Quote: leicester_rhino "So back on topic is he leaving then? I'll be sad to see him go, but think we'll go ok without him. McShane has come on well with his extra game time this season. Extra money can (should) be spent on a cracking centre'"


All well and good - name a top quality centre that has come to SL since Lyon? These players are in very short supply - there are 6-10 in the game, they all play in the NRL - a player of suitable quality will not come here whilst they are still able to compete in the NRL.

Watkins is the future and the efforts should be spent developing him physically to stand up to the rigours of the game and playing to get his standards up to the correct level.

There are only 3 you centres in SL who may be suitable Arundel, Evans and Whelham IMO - sadly Clubb looks have gone backwards - possible coaching/environment issue.

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Clubb is a second rower wearing 3. He could be a monster in the right pack, but won't get to show it at Quins as they don't have enough of the right quality around him.

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Quote: Sal Paradise "All well and good - name a top quality centre that has come to SL since Lyon? These players are in very short supply - there are 6-10 in the game, they all play in the NRL - a player of suitable quality will not come here whilst they are still able to compete in the NRL.


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Since Lyon? Matt Gidley was best centre in SL for his first couple of years here. I'd be happy if we could get someone approaching his standard.

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Quote: batleyrhino "Clubb is a second rower wearing 3.'"


Hmmm.....Leeds will probably sign him then icon_biggrin.gif

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[quote="Odemwingie":34o3cs52] I hope his career is over.(regarding danny mcguires injury 2010 play offs)[/quote:34o3cs52] [quote="Ewwenorfolk":34o3cs52] I'm glad McGuire got injured, hope he's out for about 10 months[/quote:34o3cs52] [quote="Bulls4Champs2010":34o3cs52]Price, Civ, Beaver, Moz and Wiki. Peacock is not in the catagory of these special players.[/quote:34o3cs52] [quote="McLaren_Field":34o3cs52] To be fair, their teams are also inconsequential to their own fans judging by the amount of traffic that all the other boards get [/quote:34o3cs52] [quote="Warrington Wolf":34o3cs52]If you win the weekly rounds then without doubt you are the champions.[/quote:34o3cs52]:



Quote: craigizzard "Since Lyon? Matt Gidley was best centre in SL for his first couple of years here. I'd be happy if we could get someone approaching his standard.'"

Matt Gidley apart from half a good season in 08 was $hite

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Quote: sgtwilko "Matt Gidley apart from half a good season in 08 was $hite'"



He was that $hite in 2009 he was in the Dream Team.

Last year was a year too far in most parts but he was excellent in 2008 and he was far from $hite in 2009. So much so that losing Lyon wasn't nearly as bad as it could have been.

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[quote="Odemwingie":34o3cs52] I hope his career is over.(regarding danny mcguires injury 2010 play offs)[/quote:34o3cs52] [quote="Ewwenorfolk":34o3cs52] I'm glad McGuire got injured, hope he's out for about 10 months[/quote:34o3cs52] [quote="Bulls4Champs2010":34o3cs52]Price, Civ, Beaver, Moz and Wiki. Peacock is not in the catagory of these special players.[/quote:34o3cs52] [quote="McLaren_Field":34o3cs52] To be fair, their teams are also inconsequential to their own fans judging by the amount of traffic that all the other boards get [/quote:34o3cs52] [quote="Warrington Wolf":34o3cs52]If you win the weekly rounds then without doubt you are the champions.[/quote:34o3cs52]:



Quote: Sthelens RLFC "He was that $hite in 2009 he was in the Dream Team.

Last year was a year too far in most parts but he was excellent in 2008 and he was far from $hite in 2009. So much so that losing Lyon wasn't nearly as bad as it could have been.'"

He was good for a bit average for a bit and crap for a bit! That was gidley at saints! Overall another past it Aussie who was $hite! If he made the dream team that shows you how $hite British/import centres are.

Ps Kevin penny also made a dream team he can't even get a game at wakey.

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Quote: Sthelens RLFC "He was that $hite in 2009 he was in the Dream Team.'"


With all due respect, those SL Dream Teams are a crock of sh[iy[/ite.

Keith Senior has been abysmal and on a steadily increasing decline for the past two seasons, yet he made the SL Dream Team of 2009 and 2010.

Other amusing SL Dream Team inclusions would include the likes of Ade Gardner, Kevin Penny, Jamie Thackray, Scott Donald and Graham Appo.

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Quote: craigizzard "Since Lyon? Matt Gidley was best centre in SL for his first couple of years here. I'd be happy if we could get someone approaching his standard.'"


That isn't saying much - Senior is not fr off being as good as there is still!!

Gidley was a top player when he was in Aus but he was well passed his best when he came here - Lyon was in his prime.

Top centres are a rare breed - the handling skill of a halfback with pace of a winger and the power of a second rower.

Apart from the obvious Inglis, Hodges, Cooper - my wish list would include Chris Lawrence from the Tigers

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