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Quote: Wildthing "Think he was being smart. Too smart for you!
Nah, I got it. As it's only Wakefield we are playing this weekend though i'm sure we could play just as bad and still beat you by 20.

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If it's not Senior it's Burrow. Some people live in a dreamworld.

Senior will not be dropped and shouldn't be. Burrow will not be dropped and shouldn't be.

This year the problems have been in the pack, mainly due to injuries. What gets me is that people like Watkins have done nothing more than senior, in fact he has made a lot more silly errors and his defence is far worse but Keith gets bagged.

Burrow organises the team, gives it structure. We as fans can't see it but the players and coach all know how valuable he is to the team.

I keep saying it but why would you stick Keith in pack when we have no better centre.

As for Mcshane at 7 give over. Why people insist on putting teams on here with Webb at 6, Mcshane at 7 and Keith in the pack is beyond me. Thank god you are not the coaches.

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Quote: AL Rhino "

Burrow organises the team, gives it structure.

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I'm adding you to my friends list. If someone can make me laugh this much they deserve to be there!

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Quote: rhinoms "I don't thibnk so TVOC.'"


I've just read it again, it pretty much fits ..... except you appear prepared to make excuses for one player and not the other.

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Quote: AL Rhino "If it's not Senior it's Burrow. Some people live in a dreamworld.

Senior will not be dropped and shouldn't be. Burrow will not be dropped and shouldn't be.

This year the problems have been in the pack, mainly due to injuries. What gets me is that people like Watkins have done nothing more than senior, in fact he has made a lot more silly errors and his defence is far worse but Keith gets bagged.

Burrow organises the team, gives it structure. We as fans can't see it but the players and coach all know how valuable he is to the team.

I keep saying it but why would you stick Keith in pack when we have no better centre.

As for Mcshane at 7 give over. Why people insist on putting teams on here with Webb at 6, Mcshane at 7 and Keith in the pack is beyond me. Thank god you are not the coaches.'"

He'll be the first to admit he isn't pacy enough to play Scrum Half at Super League level and asking a player who's spent the majority of the time he's represented Leeds at Hooker to play at Scrum Half is something i wouldn't expect the coaching staff to do unless it was a last resort.

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Quote: AL Rhino "If it's not Senior it's Burrow. Some people live in a dreamworld.

Senior will not be dropped and shouldn't be. Burrow will not be dropped and shouldn't be.

This year the problems have been in the pack, mainly due to injuries. What gets me is that people like Watkins have done nothing more than senior, in fact he has made a lot more silly errors and his defence is far worse but Keith gets bagged.

Burrow organises the team, gives it structure. We as fans can't see it but the players and coach all know how valuable he is to the team.

I keep saying it but why would you stick Keith in pack when we have no better centre.

As for Mcshane at 7 give over. Why people insist on putting teams on here with Webb at 6, Mcshane at 7 and Keith in the pack is beyond me. Thank god you are not the coaches.'"


Do you have posters of your infallible heroes, Senior and Burrow up on your bedroom wall ?

Did you boycott the team when McShane played 7 last season and Senior played second row ? Was that not a coach that made those decisions ?

What is JJB's position then ? Delaney's ? Presumably because they haven't stuck to their orginal allotted positions the present coach should be sacked for daring to move them ?

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It'll be interesting to see when we have a fully fit squad if Brian McDermott picks the team on form or reputation, I'd go for same old same old reputation.

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Travel info for all Leeds fans travelling over:

www.therhinos.co.uk/news/16239.php

M62 Normaton bypass I'm guessing is junction 31...seems straight forward enough.
Travel info for all Leeds fans travelling over:

www.therhinos.co.uk/news/16239.php

M62 Normaton bypass I'm guessing is junction 31...seems straight forward enough.


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Quote: Harrigan "Nah, I got it. As it's only Wakefield we are playing this weekend though i'm sure we could play just as bad and still beat you by 20.'"


Probably yes. We dont mind. icon_smile.gif

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Anyone heard about Bailey, Delaney, Kylie, Smith? I know that all or some were due back for sunday, but i have not heard anything since? do we think they will all be back

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Quote: tvoc "I've just read it again, it pretty much fits ..... except you appear prepared to make excuses for one player and not the other.'"

Not imo and no excuses either.
Senior is no longer the threat he was ball in hand and his defence is no where near as good as it was 2yrs ago as shown by how he's performed that's what i see watching him week in week out.
Robbie has proven he still is a threat with the ball more often than Keith nor has his defence deteriated as Keiths has imo.
Now of course feel free to disagree but it does'nt add up to "excuses" for either player whereas your use of Broughtons international call up by Mcbanana as back up to your argument we've missed out whilst deriding Ferres' call up as disbelief and doubting the coaches sanity on the other hand........... eusa_whistle.gif

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Quote: rhinoms "Not imo and no excuses either.
Senior is no longer the threat he was ball in hand and his defence is no where near as good as it was 2yrs ago as shown by how he's performed that's what i see watching him week in week out.
Robbie has proven he still is a threat with the ball more often than Keith nor has his defence deteriated as Keiths has imo.
Now of course feel free to disagree but it does'nt add up to "excuses" for either player whereas your use of Broughtons international call up by Mcbanana as back up to your argument we've missed out whilst deriding Ferres' call up as disbelief and doubting the coaches sanity on the other hand...........
to be honest I agree with you on senior, and in some ways agree with your assessment of burrow. I do see glimpses from him but for me i have been unimpressed with him for past few years. I agree he is the best we have in that position and hope he goes on to have a great year and prove my opinions on him wrong. In a ideal world I personally would have liked to see Chase as our stand off and Mags at 7.

Having said that I would never boo him and have never booed any player for leeds. I think the big difference between the senior and Burrow assessment is that Keith to me looks uninterested. I have my feelings regarding burrows faults but that is something you cannot level against him.

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Quote: Ferdy "to be honest I agree with you on senior, and in some ways agree with your assessment of burrow. I do see glimpses from him but for me i have been unimpressed with him for past few years. I agree he is the best we have in that position and hope he goes on to have a great year and prove my opinions on him wrong. In a ideal world I personally would have liked to see Chase as our stand off and Mags at 7.

Having said that I would never boo him and have never booed any player for leeds. I think the big difference between the senior and Burrow assessment is that Keith to me looks uninterested. I have my feelings regarding burrows faults but that is something you cannot level against him.'"


Nobody (I hope) can dispute Burrow's attitude, guts, tackling ability and amazing speed for a guy with such little legs in broken play. I admire all those qualities. The question is ...is he a good enough scrum half with a wide range of kicking bag-of-tricks to keep the opposition guessing when/if he attacks the line....or will he try to simply duck under tackles, run sideways or throw out a predictable pass ?

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Quote: nantwichexile "Nobody (I hope) can dispute Burrow's attitude, guts, tackling ability and amazing speed for a guy with such little legs in broken play. I admire all those qualities. The question is ...is he a good enough scrum half with a wide range of kicking bag-of-tricks to keep the opposition guessing when/if he attacks the line....or will he try to simply duck under tackles, run sideways or throw out a predictable pass ?'"


I personally dont think his kicking game or organisation are good enough and would have prefered Chase and Mags as half back.

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Hard to even pick a team this week! I reckon it'll probably something along the lines of;

Webb
Watkins
Ablett
Senior
Hall
Sinfield
Burrow
Cross
Buderus
Kirke
Hauraki
Lauitiiti
Jones-Buchannan

McShane
Singleton
Bailey (if fit)
Burgess

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