Also it musn't be forgotten that Quins did not play badly. This was an astonshing (and strangely under celebrated on here) win by a genuinely makeshift side.

Don't be a prat and tell me what I was basing my opinion on. My opinion was based on sat in the LV stand watching the fecking game, not that I need to justify myself to you. Were you at the game? there certainly wasn't many leeds fans there, the lowest I have seen for a weekend match in a long time.

Senior was lazy and poor in defence, and that was my opinion.



WTF? I appreciate you posted this earlier, but I only just came back to this thread. What is that when the usual internet keyboard warrior fools start to post that the sheep then follow?

You did this exact same thing last week, then when I challenged you, you manned up and apologised. Telling lies and talking poop is not big and not clever.

I posted last week that I was concerned that players are promoted to the 1st team without showing the form to warrant it. Commenting specifically how poor the respective players played the week prior to the match. I followed that statement up by saying that there should not be a pecking order for selection but showing hunger and form to warrant the shirt, and that it should apply to 1st choice players also. I never said anything whatsover about writing off the team. Now if you can show me anything that alludes to writing off the team in words, then I will gladly take my comments back. But otherwise I expect that just like last week you will be man enough to apologise again.

As for a negative for not coming on a message board and praising a side for the result, is that for real? Get in the real world. I was at the game on Saturday, a very long day that given the choice again I would not have bothered with. But I did my praising of the side by been there. Were you there on Saturday? Did you support this side with money and time to warrant the comments you put above?

Infact how many hypocrits are actually posting on this thread who did not attend on Saturday?

This has to be a wind-up surely.

Have you not got round to creating/adopting a new 'comedy' persona yet?

Still championing McGuire for right centre? Proposing Ablett be dropped? Rob Burrow to be released?Claiming Mcshane & Buderus be played on the basis of current 'form' yet starting that particular crusade over a year ago when they'd managed 5 interchange appearances between them? Still ignoring anything that doesn't fit your agenda then crying foul if someone disagrees with your proclamations?

Its all a bit transparent in my opinion. The attention seeking octogenarian persona has surely run it's course.

Nice work on trying to snare Gotcha though. He's certainly not dumb enough to fall for it but everyone loves a tryer.

Gotcha,

I didn't attend the game. I was in the USA.

Then again, I didn't deride the selection of the fringe players who went on to help us record a vital and important win. That is the point I was making, not questioning your allegiance. Though your passionate attempt to deflect the criticism by changing the goal posts in duly noted.

FWIW, I am sure you regularly attend the matches. Just as I am sure you haven't a clue what is going on. Just as I am sure you spend you whole time there making inappropriate whinges about the players, a trait you then repeat on here.

Whoopppee for you. I was in South Africa the week leading up to the Wigan game, but still got off a plane at 13

I don't wish to get involved in your childish games of posting usual nonsense. Put care to bring that post back up for all to see? that way we can see exactly what my comments were. I did not deride any single one of those 4 players promoted individually, I simply questioned their right to be there based on the previous weeks performances. A huge difference to the childish game your trying to play, and one that certainlg involves changing the goal posts on your part.

I agreed with that



Do you mean G1? that's who I quoted, he wasn't in the country last week?

When and what did I apologize about and what lie did I tell?



You had servere reservations about the young lads who would be playing due to their recent performances, I said lets see how they go in the first team, you predicted an 8 point loss but we won by 20, thats a 28 point difference, you must of been pleased with that? I just said that all I've seen you comment on the game is more critisism after a good performance



I didn't go to the game and I've never pretended I did, my reason for not going are no one else's business, I've never mentioned whether you went to to game or not so I'm not sure what you are getting at.



Gotcha I think you need to chill out, I said you seen very negative recently, Is that not fair considering some of your posts, I never critisized you for it, chill out man

Just to clarify for all the neutrals reading this thread and to highlight the nonsense that G1 makes up.

This is the post that he is so certain of here that I was deriding indvidual players and writing off the team.



I didn't bring up the thread as in that very thread Gareth just arrives back and goes straight into critisizing a certain player. Showing the usual hypocrisy that when others critisise it is a totally different story.

Just to say, actually I appreciate your effort there to be reasonable, which if I am been honest it was. As was Soprano's post before.

But I still think it is you that as got the completely wrong end of the stick, and are using it to beat where it is not necessary.

I actually hate you.

A psychologist would have a field day with you. Firstly, the desperate appeal for some support and validation from any like minds with the "for all the neutrals". Neutral to what exactly by the way? You're already desperately precluding anyone who dares to disagree with you as being not neutral. A really desperate character flaw.

Then the description of my posts as "made up nonsense". They might be but as we all know should anyone dare to use such colorful descriptions about the stuff you post they're immediately "sheep", "clique members" etc.

Again, I repeat, you derided the selection of the players. That is what I have taken issue with. We're in agreement that you were questioning the rights of those players to be selected. Yet you're inventing things to have an argument with me.

Why not? Why were you being selective? What are you hiding? Why not link the thread and let "the neutrals" make their own minds up?

Do you have a link to me telling anyone they cannot criticise a player? or is this "made up nonsense"?

I am going to leave you again with this post, and ignore the above.

FAO, Gotcha, and I really mean this, I like it when you post. It makes SOuthstander really interesting. There's rarely much worthy of my esteemed time on here these days but you usually draw me out.

I used to think I was trolling you but these days i am not so sure. I certainly can't resist taking a potshot at your opinions so maybe it's you trolling me.

Either way, keep up the good/crazy work.

As for nantwhich exhile, he/she/it is just insipid.

I'm still unsure what I apologized for last week and what I lied about?