Most union fans will never like league because it's too formulaic - 5 drives and a kick, repeat. Theres much more variety and areas of combat in union.

It depends what you grow up with most of the time. What we see as fast an open, they see as repetitive and predictable. What we see as ugly, slow and boring, they see as fascinating tactical battles and variety.

That was a great game. I don't mind Union, you have to watch it with an open mind rather than the rugby league chip on your shoulder. Obviously brought up with league, i think a great game of league beats a great game of union, and a terrible game of league still beats a terrible game of union. But a great game of union is still bloody enjoyable, it just depends how it's played and how the game unfolds. Plus, we can actually beat the aussies in Union, which is a major plus.

Yea sure loads of fat guys roll about on the floor for ages till the SH passes back to the FB who hoofs it down the pitch. Repeat ad finitum

I agree totally with this.

Union has changed a lot, in Wales and the Southern Hemisphere.

10-man rugby is still king in England, Scotland and Ireland - particularly when the harsher conditions come around in the middle of the season.

KICK AND CLAP

You and Mclaren Field are looking back through rose tinted glasses. Do you not remember how players could be given lifetime bans from Union for being "tainted" by having played league (union's terminology).

I bet Steve Pilgrim doesn't recall with fluffy nostalgia the days when players were happily allowed to play both codes.

Oh, and the "tainting" was only ever one way.

I know players who, in the 1970s, played for Leeds RL Colts and also Roundhay and Headingley RU in the full knowledge of each club concerned without incurring wrath or sanctions, it happened and many were aware that it happened and turned a blind eye.

Mind, there were a lot of blind eyes in RU at that time - the mate I mentioned on the previous page, the one who would have been signed on RL pro terms if he hadn't been so keen on his career, played under other names on several occasions for RU clubs who were considered the "upper tier", particularly in competitions such as the John Player Trophy - we went with him to a quarter final game at Fylde once and the cash that he found in an envelope in his kitbag afterwards paid for one hell of a p1ssup in Blackpool for three of us that night - and then I drove us home - ah the 1970s, those days will not return

Look at the pace & quality of Super Rugby, great value entertainment

Loz, you can't educate those who wish to bury their heads in the sand or carry huge chips and grudges around all day long, they probably still hate the Germans too.

You know where Super Rugby is played, don't you?

Not quite sure what point you're trying to make there?