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sorry dont agree with Gibson, apart from the try and the pass out to donald really dont think he offers anything. I think Watkins with a bit more experience and working on some parts of his game is head and shoulders above Gibson in attack, and is far more dangerous than a gibson in his earlier years. Watkins in the reserves friday night was outstanding in the second half, if he can contonue that kind of form he will be back in the starting line up. Think Gibson will be on his way this year.
As for worrell well i cannot for the life of me understand how he gets picked....offers nothing just a plodder nothing more.
I have seen him 3 times in the reserves this season and each time he was probably the worst player on the field and he still gets selected for first team ????

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Quote: Matt23 "Despite one flash of genius, and one smartly taken try, I'm still far from convinced that Gibbo's future lies at right centre. Reasonably encouraging today though.'"


The "flash of genius" was not necessary, he could just as easily have simply passed the ball. Trying to set up a flick out of the back of your hand every time you need to get the ball to your winger is going to result in a truly horrendous pass completion rate.
I thought his defence was poor last night as well - although he's not helped much by Donald. Ratu made a stunning impact when he came on - giving away the dumbest penalty of the game.
There were so many holes in the Leeds defence my Mum could have grabbed a couple of scores last night. Most penalised team in the league, now with a defence that pensioners could walk through? Something not right here - and it's not the squad - which should be up to this (although if Luke Burgess doesn't learn how to tackle people that don't run straight at him we should be looking at a lower league prop with peripheral vision capability very soon - oh...hang on?).

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Thought Ablett and Kylie played well too. Peacock looked a bit jaded though, he could do with a week off.

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Quote: Dave Heron's Moustache "The "flash of genius" was not necessary, he could just as easily have simply passed the ball. '"


I disagree. The way you carry the ball will influence how the defence reacts. The defence will have not expected the pass as Gibson had it in one hand. That doubt that Gibson created in the defenders mind gave Donald the split second he needed to squeeze in at the corner.

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Quote: The Nihilist "Thought Ablett and Kylie played well too. Peacock looked a bit jaded though, he could do with a week off.'"


Kylie played some longer stints tonight. Seems to be improving recent weeks.

Did Ablett get injured? I didn't see him after about 60mins

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I was more convinced by Gibson than I have been in a long time. I've been a bit quick to criticise in the past but everything he did yesterday was good. His defence is really solid.

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Quote: Dave Heron's Moustache "The "flash of genius" was not necessary, he could just as easily have simply passed the ball. Trying to set up a flick out of the back of your hand every time you need to get the ball to your winger is going to result in a truly horrendous pass completion rate.
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Surely you commit the winger if you pass out of one hand. There is no disguise passing out of two.

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I believe we need to be an eighty minute team and stop the lapses which we have displayed in recent weeks.

I agree that Kylie and Peacock are awesome at the moment. Ablett also backed up with some telling runs and drives. Burgess isnt quite there yet as the impact player we require when the old guard have a breather.

Silly penalties.... What was Mike Ratu thinking of? He had tackled Raynor and when he got up to play the ball Ratu was having a smooch with him! The result from the penalty was six points to Hull! In the first half we hardly conceeded any penalties which was pleasing.

Sinny - what can I say - kicked every kick with ease - then again the usually hit and miss Tickle was also on target from all over. Must have been a kickers day.

Then again, Jodie Broughton was clean through and fell over. Hmmm. Credit to Hull though, played the last however long with fifteen men and played really well. Thought Thackray showed us what we were missing! Loose carries, indicipline and I do wonder if as repoerted on Sky that he had phoned up Bluey and apologised.

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Quote: Chorley Rhino "I believe we need to be an eighty minute team and stop the lapses which we have displayed in recent weeks.

I agree that Kylie and Peacock are awesome at the moment. Ablett also backed up with some telling runs and drives. Burgess isnt quite there yet as the impact player we require when the old guard have a breather.
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I think Burgess go forward is improving and he always looks to offload which I like, he needs to improve his defense but he's getting better generally IMO.

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Seeing the title of this thread I thought it must be about the Sky teletext report of the game. It's a right dog's dinner, mixing up our titular heroes at random intervals.

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Quote: gulfcoast_highwayman "Seeing the title of this thread I thought it must be about the Sky teletext report of the game. It's a right dog's dinner, mixing up our titular heroes at random intervals.'"


On Thursday it quoted Warrington as a Yorkshire club!

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Quote: leicester_rhino "I disagree. The way you carry the ball will influence how the defence reacts. The defence will have not expected the pass as Gibson had it in one hand. That doubt that Gibson created in the defenders mind gave Donald the split second he needed to squeeze in at the corner.'"


So all that coaching boll0x about carrying the ball in two hands because the defence won't know what you are going to do is wrong then? Last night the defender had already commited to him -he transferred the ball to one hand and flicked it out in a high risk move. He could just as easily have passed. Do you recall the next time he got the ball and took an age to transfer the ball to his right hand which was so obvious anyone could have spotted it? Donald didn't get the ball that's for sure.
The one handed flick is used best after you have made contact with the defenders and you are being tackled and only have one hand free - like Mr Lauititi or Keith does it - any other time it's just incorrect passing technique.

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Quote: Dave Heron's Moustache "Most penalised team in the league, now with a defence that pensioners could walk through? Something not right here - and it's not the squad - which should be up to this (although if Luke Burgess doesn't learn how to tackle people that don't run straight at him we should be looking at a lower league prop with peripheral vision capability very soon - oh...hang on?).'"


Not the squad in terms of ability but perhaps it is the squad in terms of application?

I've posted this before but mentally the team are in a tremendously difficult situation that most posters seem blissfully unable to comprehend.

Teams struggle to retain titles because its so difficult to mentally get up to performing to the same intensity and consistency for a second year. This squad is trying to do it for a third year - something that hasn't been done in Superleague before.

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Quote: GCM1980 "I was more convinced by Gibson than I have been in a long time. I've been a bit quick to criticise in the past but everything he did yesterday was good. His defence is really solid.'"


His postional play last night was poor, every time Hull moved the ball that way they looked dangerous. He has defended better other times I've seen him. Burgess, Diskin, Worrall, Doanld and Gibson were all leaving holes last night. As a team we were not up to standard.

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