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Quote: batleyrhino "One of my questions is will the journos pick up on the feeling amongst the fans and write about it? That’s really the catalyst for change, when the word starts spreading. Otherwise it’s just some fans moaning on a forum.'"

Will become obvious if attendances are as poor as the CC game. Fans will eventually start booing team off etc if it gets much worse…..

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Attendances wont drop as so many ST holfers and corporate that will be booked for the whole season. The crunch we come if they cant fill the corporate - that subsidises the ST costs.

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Quote: Simmo71 "If we play really poorly and lose on Thursday, then my mind will be made up on Smith.
He doesn't have the capability to adequately coach a team to consistent results and performances.

But the club won't knee jerk.
I actually think he will stay until the end of the season.
But I do think the club will make up it's mind after 12 games and if we are bottom half, GH will be planning for a change for next season.'"

I can agree that if we are bottom half still at the season half way point, if we haven’t had a massive injury crisis of biblical proportions again to account for it (which isn’t the fault of the coach)…. Then I will willingly join the Voodoo Club.

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Quote: Simmo71 "If we play really poorly and lose on Thursday, then my mind will be made up on Smith.
He doesn't have the capability to adequately coach a team to consistent results and performances.

But the club won't knee jerk.
I actually think he will stay until the end of the season.
But I do think the club will make up it's mind after 12 games and if we are bottom half, GH will be planning for a change for next season.'"


GH is no longer capable of making the right rugby decisions, proven over nearly a decade.

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Quote: batleyrhino "One of my questions is will the journos pick up on the feeling amongst the fans and write about it? That’s really the catalyst for change, when the word starts spreading. Otherwise it’s just some fans moaning on a forum.'"

I think your last sentence has it though. You guys whip yourselves up into a frenzy on here while I think a big proportion of the fan base gets on with life.

It’s an echo chamber.

Of course Smith is under pressure, any Leeds coach is.

I’ve seen enough so far this year to believe that we’ll fare pretty well over the next batch of fixtures. If we don’t then personally I’ll start considering Smith as the problem.

Obviously I know F all about the game though as I’m not an ex Super League player like most of our disaffected seem to be.

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Quote: Shabino "Will become obvious if attendances are as poor as the CC game. Fans will eventually start booing team off etc if it gets much worse…..'"

Attendances at the opening three games have been very good. Averaging about 15k despite pretty ropey weather. This forum (much as I like it) is not representative of the average punter who goes to a game on a Friday night. Let's face it, people who tend to come on here like a good moan - and that’s putting it politely. I would wager a very high % of posters have long since ceased to be regular paying customers and largely follow the game via TV. None of that alters the fact that the next three games sre crucial for Smith. All are winnable, and with a largely fit squad, Smith should be winning them. Two fairly close defeats against Saints isn't the end of the world, but wins against Cas, Wire and Hudds are required to show an exceptable level of progress.

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Quote: ArthurClues "Attendances at the opening three games have been very good. Averaging about 15k despite pretty ropey weather. This forum (much as I like it) is not representative of the average punter who goes to a game on a Friday night. Let's face it, people who tend to come on here like a good moan - and that’s putting it politely. I would wager a very high % of posters have long since ceased to be regular paying customers and largely follow the game via TV. None of that alters the fact that the next three games sre crucial for Smith. All are winnable, and with a largely fit squad, Smith should be winning them. Two fairly close defeats against Saints isn't the end of the world, but wins against Cas, Wire and Hudds are required to show an exceptable level of progress.'"

On the contrary, I think this forum does represent the average fan. After all they have taken time out to post about the club and its direction. The majority of postings are perfectly fair and reasonable. Either for or against the club, as for moaning, well we’ve had a lot to moan about for quite a few seasons.

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We went to a winless Trinity last season and lost, we now travel to a winless Cas. The writing is on the wall. Lose on Thursday and Smith will have to go.

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Quote: Backwoodsman "On the contrary, I think this forum does represent the average fan. After all they have taken time out to post about the club and its direction. The majority of postings are perfectly fair and reasonable. Either for or against the club, as for moaning, well we’ve had a lot to moan about for quite a few seasons.'"

I don't think taking time to post on this forum often multiple times a day (as I do) is average, infact it's borderline obsessive. If it was there would be 10k on a regular basis. Anyway, think I'll listen to my own advice and give myself and everybody else a break for a few days.

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Quote: ArthurClues "I don't think taking time to post on this forum often multiple times a day (as I do) is average, infact it's borderline obsessive. If it was there would be 10k on a regular basis. Anyway, think I'll listen to my own advice and give myself and everybody else a break for a few days.'"

Sounds good plan mate. Not worth engaging in anything you’re not enjoying. Come back refreshed!

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Quote: ArthurClues "I don't think taking time to post on this forum often multiple times a day (as I do) is average, infact it's borderline obsessive. If it was there would be 10k on a regular basis. Anyway, think I'll listen to my own advice and give myself and everybody else a break for a few days.'"

Most things in life don’t matter a great deal, posting on her by and large is a bit of fun. So carry on with the postings. I enjoy most of the input into this forum. Most of it well meaning and I genuinely enjoy the forum. As for any bias ,I was a long standing supporter in the old south stand. Absolutely loved it witnessing bias on an Olympic scale.

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I know I started the Smith out ASAP thing but I would love to be proved wrong. I am desperate to see the the club I have followed since the mid 70s get back to competing for silver wear again . But I can't see this man doing it . Please Rohan prove me wrong.

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Quote: Smithout "I know I started the Smith out ASAP thing but I would love to be proved wrong. I am desperate to see the the club I have followed since the mid 70s get back to competing for silver wear again . But I can't see this man doing it . Please Rohan prove me wrong.'"

No signs of that at all I’m afraid. Hence the meltdown!

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Quote: Swoggy Loiner "Apart from maybe Martin, Bentley was Leeds’s best player again last night. I think some people just get on his back for no reason other than jumping on the bandwagon. Shame the rest of the pack didn’t share his enthusiasm or work rate.'"

Too true if Sangare had heart like Bentley he'd be an absolute brute unfortunately like some others he has a heart the size of a pea.

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Quote: MrPotatoHead "You can't rebuild an entire team in two years in a salary capped sport, it will take years to sort out the mess we're in. The only way to be at the top is through academy players (as proved by Leeds formerly, and Saints + Wigan now) and then the purchased players are the icing on the cake. Sangare, McDonnell, Holdroyd, Gannon, Hudson & TNW could be a great pack, but only if they live up to their potential in 3 years time. Can't have everything now, just doesn't work like that.'"

Whatever you say Rohan!

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