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Quote: G1 "I don't think people pay to watch sport for "entertainment" at all to be honest.

Sport is a tribal thing. It's why fans of teams that are permanently in the doldrums turn out week in week out knowing that their team has no chance. It's about far, far more than entertainment.

My post was carefully worded. I said if we win it will be the most enjoyable season I've had to [iendure[/i.

I watch Leeds because I have a tribal affinity to the club. It's my club. It's the club I was brought up watching. I can watch great games of rugby as a neutral involving other clubs but it doesn't feel the same. So, if my club becomes champions I will enjoy that a great deal. I will also enjoy it more than many previous titles because it will have been achieved in the most dramatic of fashions with the team and the coach overcoming a great deal of adversity.

Which leads me to the other element of sports and, perhaps the most important. My wife won't believe this but Sport is the greatest drama on TV and Leeds have been a drama this season. Here's a much better analogy than remarkable rhinos silly "holiday" analogy. We're like Rocky. Everyone loves Rocky right? Nobody rooted for Appollo Creed (until Rocky III that is). But Rocky was a bum. Losing fights. Average until he got his big shot and he took it.

This season has been like Rocky I and Rocky II all rolled in. The Challenge Cup Final was the fight at the end of Rocky I which we controversially lost. The Grand Final will be the fight at the end of Rocky II if we win. All together now, Adrian! Adrian!

Sport is drama. This has been a dramatic season and there's a potentially dramatic finish around the corner. Who on earth could say that haven't enjoyed that? If this doesn't get the hairs on the back of your neck arisen and your juices flowing then I think you're following the wrong sport.'"


Excellent post. OMG this is becoming a habit icon_confused.gif

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Quote: G1 "

In week one, the team in 2nd had to beat the team in 3rd, while the team in 5th had to beat the team in 8th.

Great format?

The irony is the RFL actually had a good system and then binned it.

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Quote: tvoc "In week one, the team in 2nd had to beat the team in 3rd, while the team in 5th had to beat the team in 8th.

Great format?

The irony is the RFL actually had a good system and then binned it.'"


Every teams knows the rules before the season.

It's just the way the cookie crumbles.

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Quote: tvoc "In week one, the team in 2nd had to beat the team in 3rd, while the team in 5th had to beat the team in 8th.

Great format?

The irony is the RFL actually had a good system and then binned it.'"

Agree the old system was better. But there is still an advantage. The loser of 5 vs 8 went out. 2 vs 3 the loser got to fight on again next week. As said I preferred the old system, but with no religation cannot see number of PO spaces being reduced

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Quote: Clearwing "
In my book, anyone who feels we don't deserve it might as well go support wigan - you can share their pain, knowing that really, deep down, they are the most deserving of all teams and bemoan the fact that Leeds won it on the back of two good performances.
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Mate you can't just say that. Everyone is entitled to an opinion. At no point did I suggest I didn't want to support Leeds. I'm just suggesting that the system is wrong, and we shouldn't be in a position to play this poorly and be called Champions.

The facts are that we ARE in this position, and if we grab it, then fair play to us. That's not our fault. Well done us. Go Leeds!

What I'm saying is I will feel a bit embarrassed that the system of a 9 month long competition allows a team that's put a Champion-like performance in for 7% of its matches to be called "Champions". What I'm not saying is "I want to support Wigan!".

Please read things properly. Christ... even Gotcha understood it! It can't be that hard!!
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Quote: Wilbred T Pricklepop "Every teams knows the rules before the season.
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I have no problem with that and it's a common mantra that I use myself.

Doesn't mean I have to like the current system or think it has the balance right though, especially as I consider it inferior to the previous format which in turn was inferior to the original format adopted to decide the SL Champions since 1998.

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I propose the Bloodbath for this "Official Stalker" role as I think he has the right sort of qualifications. Besides it would give him the chance to get close up with his hero. icon_lol.gif

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Quote: Juan Cornetto "I propose the Bloodbath for this "Official Stalker" role as I think he has the right sort of qualifications. Besides it would give him the chance to get close up with his hero.
Or I could go and watch the England squad train. icon_cool.gif

Alot of people will be eating huge slices of humble pie come Monday.

My list is present.

Thanks for mentioning and thinking about me and TMFMISL......again. You got it bad. It must be my glowing rugby acumen and pumping guns that do it. icon_wink.gif

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Quote: Remarkable_Rhinos "What I'm saying is I will feel a bit embarrassed that the system of a 9 month long competition allows a team that's put a Champion-like performance in for 7% of its matches to be called "Champions". What I'm not saying is "I want to support Wigan!".

Please read things properly. Christ... even Gotcha understood it! It can't be that hard!!
[size(Sorry Gotcha!)[/size'"


Sorry about the wigan bit, I meant no offence. However, I clearly don't share Gotcha's powers of perception. I really don't understand your embarrassment at winning a competition fairly and by playing good rugby [iwhen it matters[/i. Granted, the play off system could be improved but it's inevitable that, whatever the format, every now and again a team that's been less than scintillating through the regular season will win it. Were you embarrassed by any of our three-in-a-row wins?

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Quote: Clearwing " However, I clearly don't share Gotcha's powers of perception.'"



Don't worry about that one mate. It's a gift. Not a lot of people do.

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Quote: Remarkable_Rhinos "Mate you can't just say that. Everyone is entitled to an opinion. At no point did I suggest I didn't want to support Leeds. I'm just suggesting that the system is wrong, and we shouldn't be in a position to play this poorly and be called Champions.

The facts are that we ARE in this position, and if we grab it, then fair play to us. That's not our fault. Well done us. Go Leeds!

What I'm saying is I will feel a bit embarrassed that the system of a 9 month long competition allows a team that's put a Champion-like performance in for 7% of its matches to be called "Champions". What I'm not saying is "I want to support Wigan!".

Please read things properly. Christ... even Gotcha understood it! It can't be that hard!!
[size(Sorry Gotcha!)[/size'"


Bradford were awful for the first half of 2005, no-one questioned their right to win it from 3rd (apart from the salary cap breach icon_wink.gif)

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Quote: tvoc "In week one, the team in 2nd had to beat the team in 3rd, '"

So, they have a home game against a team below them. Win it and the reward is a week off and another home game against a team below them. Not forgetting the luxury of a 2nd chance.

Quote: tvoc "while the team in 5th had to beat the team in 8th.'"
Had to is the correct phrase. Because there was no second chance. The reward for a win, an away trip to a team above them.

Quote: tvoc "Great format?'"
It's OK. Could be better but not as bad as some think. I have much less sympathy with Wigan and Warrington than most. To be fair to Warrington fans, unlike a large majority of silly Wigan fans, they didn't cry and whine about it either.

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Quote: leicester_rhino "Bradford were awful for the first half of 2005, no-one questioned their right to win it from 3rd (apart from the salary cap breach Bradford were really bad at start 2005 but timed there run well and peaked at right time

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Quote: Ferdy "Bradford were really bad at start 2005 but timed their Salary Cap breach by signing Morley well and peaked at right time'"

Edited for accuracy!

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