That's what she said.

Replacement for Donaldson

Goudemand,Ruan,Bentley,Gannon,McDonnell and maybe Martin. We don't need to replace Donaldson, we need to replace Tetevano/Walters, Fusitua and if unlucky,Martin.

We have lots of workmen,need some thing else from any incoming and not more of the same

Holroyd is the enigma for me when he came back he looked every bit a prop should be tough a bit nasty with it but now he's like a shadow of that player has he been told to not be aggressive like Bentley im told the coach wants his players to be competitive but no more.

Spot on.
We had 2 strike players in Hurrell and then Macdonald to be replaced by a workhorse who isn`t working very hard!
We need a Sironen or a Fitzgibbon type second rower imo and a prop who can run hard.
Tom Davies would have been ideal to replace Fusitua.

Completely left field thought here.
But could Frawley play FB with Miller playing in the halves?
Just a thought.

Miller needs to start playing like its 13 a side not sevens, if he can do that he will be fine. Frawley just shouldn’t be at the club.

Frawley isn't great but even the best would struggle behind our beaten pack with a coach that wants you to play like a forward.

Are you joking? Have you seen him run?

I think the players we have are fine. It's the defensive tactics that are the issue. I'm not too bothered about unstructured attack, we're not getting in enough attacking positions anyway, because we're allowing teams to stroll 70m up field every set, resulting in us starting our sets on our own line. I just don't understand the logic behind it. RL is about controlling field position, but we seem to be happy surrendering it.

Agree Jack. I didn't rate Frawley, but until he's played games where we've got field position its hard to judge him too harshly. Croft isn't exactly setting the world on fire either, and he definitely is a good player. Momirovksi looks a shadow of his former self, but maybe needs a bit more time to get going, and again is in a team constantly playing at the wrong end of the field. Miller I think would be doing far less crazy stuff if he wasn't needing to look for miracles every play - he didn't do that in the NRL.

The problem is the forwards. We lack a bit of size and power, but that was always the case looking at our squad. The bigger issue is the way our forwards are playing, and even if we had different players would they look much different? The defensive "strategy" is pants, and has been for over a year. We're getting mullered right down the middle of the field and losing ridiculous yardage on every set. That's down to attitude and the way they are being asked to play.

We're looking only marginally better than last season despite laying out big money for a new spine, who are wasted because of where and how they're getting the ball. If Smith doesn't address that then its not new players we need as much as a new coach. And that really pains me to say because I like a lot of what he's done at the club.

So did Daryl Powell back in the day. But it replacing him with uncle Tony took leeds to the top.

But dropped ball / penalties is making us defend our own 30/40 constantly. Switch four sets of that for four sets of good ball and the balance of the game changes.

Another thing is that Bentley can’t be advocated by people who also think we lack strike in the pack, you can’t have your cake and eat it. Said before but for me the comparison is Goudemand/Donaldson/o’Connor/Bentley.

Think O’Connor got pushed off another marker tackle for one of Wire’s tries but he was very good other than that.

Some tough decisions needed to elevate us from here, because on current evidence the team isn’t good enough still.

It’s not impossible that Max Simpson comes through at centre this year and we push Mom out to wing, but he looks too slow for wing.

This is the root of the problem.
The passive defence and lack of power in the pack is constantly putting us under pressure and on the back foot.
This means the backs have nothing to work with and are desperately searching for miracle plays from our own half.

We're short of two big forwards, but I believe that the rest of the players are better than what is being served up.
Unfortunately this has to be down to the tactics and how the team are being set up to play.

I know the rose tinted brigade will point to the amount of mistakes we are making and the coach can't do anything about that.....
But I really believe mistakes are made because we are constantly on the back foot in our own 20.
Pressure leads to errors.

I don't believe that errors is the reason why we are constantly defending our own line.
It's the passive defence.
Castleford and Leigh, first half.
We didn't make errors, we just allowed them to march all the way up the pitch every set.

And yes, before anyone points out, I know we won those games.
It may work occasionally against poor teams.
But decent teams, and teams on form will punish us.