FORUMS > Leeds Rhinos > Player | Mikolaj Oledzki |
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| Given the geriatric nature of too many of our forwards I'd like to see Oledzki and others given a genuine chance in the first team early next season.
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| Quote: BrisbaneRhino "Given the geriatric nature of too many of our forwards I'd like to see Oledzki and others given a genuine chance in the first team early next season.'"
I know right, it's not like they wouldn't have the experience around them as we have that in abundance.
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| Would love to see him become a regular next year.
I don't have a problem at all with giving young kids a chance. They'll make mistakes sure, but they'll become better for it.
I'd much rather have Oledski, Lilley, Walker etc playing a full season than, Mullally, Galloway, Singleton, Briscoe, Delaney etc.
All we are saying, is give youth a chaaaaaaance.
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| The only way that the youth is going to learn is by playing in games and making mistakes.
Unfortunately at a team like Leeds who are hungry for success these teething trouble usually have you branded crap and washed out by the fans before you can blink.
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| We gave Golding the 1 shirt and backed him and it didn't take long before he was taking stick from some fans.
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| Quote: leedsnsouths "I think the big difference between Oledski and a Sam Burgess is that he seems to lack a bit of game knowhow around the PTB (also the PTB has got a lot more scrappy than it was 10 years ago when Burgess and Graham debuted).'"
Yep should be remembered that Oledzki only started playing at 14 so a bit behind most that will have been playing from an earlier age.
Physically he definitely looks up to it just have to see if he's ready experience wise yet particularly in defence.
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| Just needs a few games against weaker SL opposition to see how he goes and bring him on from there. If he's going to get 3 min cameos or warm the bench for 80mins then send him back to us please.
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| He will obviously be sent out on dual reg at various times next season
But as Bullseye has already alluded to, he has to be given opportunities to see where he is currently at whilst playing against SL players rather than in the Championship,at least he is going to be physically up to the rigours of playing so there's no excuse there for not trying him
Stick him in the 17 early doors next season and lets see how he goes IMO
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| Quote: Ex-Swarcliffe Rhino "The only way that the youth is going to learn is by playing in games and making mistakes.
Unfortunately at a team like Leeds who are hungry for success these teething trouble usually have you branded crap and washed out by the fans before you can blink.'"
Some young players come in to first grade and are to use your term 'crap' though - I'd say not the required standard - slow, poor ball control in contact, weak defensively etc. What do we do with those? The club usually moves them on and quite right too.
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| Quote: tvoc "Some young players come in to first grade and are to use your term 'crap' though - I'd say not the required standard - slow, poor ball control in contact, weak defensively etc. What do we do with those? The club usually moves them on and quite right too.'"
I think I know where your heading with this and to be fair you are correct.
The fact that a young player can make it through to the first team, in a champion team, at an "elite" level who can't pass or read a defensive pattern is frankly a joke. But that's a job for the coaching side and I'm not going to head in that direction with yourself, your stall is set on that one.
I'm merely hinting at the like who laud a player one moment but quickly stick the knife in when said player has an off day / period as young players are destined to have.
But, that's sport.
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| I think this is a difficult one to call. We can all name young players brought through early where it was a success and others where it was a failure. For mine this is one that we have to trust the coaching team to call. I hope he gets some opportunities to test himself in SL next year but not at the risk of damaging a really good long term prospect. Hopefully the coaching team will be spot on with which games he should be in the 17 for.
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| Quote: PrinterThe "We gave Golding the 1 shirt and backed him and it didn't take long before he was taking stick from some fans.'"
Cameron Smith has also been written off by a lot of fans despite only been 18.
Some people are far too quick to call for young kids to be thrown into first grade week in week out, then far too quick to shoot them down when they don't immediately deliver.
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| Quote: Sir Kevin Sinfield "Cameron Smith has also been written off by a lot of fans despite only been 18.
Some people are far too quick to call for young kids to be thrown into first grade week in week out, then far too quick to shoot them down when they don't immediately deliver.'"
Don't think you can write a player off at 18, but my god Smith was awful for us. Even with us in L1, i think you'd struggle to find any fan who would be happy us signing him for next year. Loan or otherwise. A million miles off being a first team player for you guys. His defence was one of the worst i've seen. Very disappointing. He was dropped for the last 3 games he was so bad.
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| Liked the linked guardian piece, if the club can get his granddad over here to watch him play at least once, it should. He's something different (Mo, that is, not the granddad) and there's a story to be told.
WRT props starting at an early age, durability is an issue. McDermott has alluded to it in his usual cryptic fashion and I've heard JP say as much too. Not so much the game in which they play, it's convincing them they're fit to train and play the week afterwards. Battle hardening, I guess. Can't be easy if you feel like you've rolled down Ben Nevis in a dustbin every Monday.
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