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| Quote: William Eve "Since the club allegedly stopped paying him his wages long before the 3rd of January, what possible motive could Segeyaro have to return on that date?'"
perhaps he could use the trip back to the uk as therapy for the serious home sickness phobia that he has just recently discovered
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| Quote: Jonesy's a Legend "perhaps he could use the trip back to the uk as therapy for the serious home sickness phobia that he has just recently discovered
I think his issues were there all along.
WRT his arrival at Leeds during the summer, he couldn't have dragged his heels more if he'd tried.
He made the best of it while he was in Leeds and talked everything up about his stay, but none of it was ever convincing. He was trying to convince himself more like.
As soon as he returned home, he will have known for definite he wasn't coming back.
I'm not prepared to belittle him for his choices. Homesickness might appear trivial and an excuse to some, but it's real to those who suffer from it. Not dealing with stuff like that can lead to depression and other mental health issues.
Anyone who reckons he ought to man up and serve out his contract at Leeds are @rseholes IMO. I include Leeds Rhinos management among them.
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| With Segeyaro the club were clear that his decision to sign and then renege on his contract for this season left them in a very very difficult position. Now its easy to think of the club as some monolith but it is also the individuals who make up the team and the off-field staff. For some of those players this season will be their final chance at Silverware and Segeyaro's decision to sign and then renege has damaged that (however small you think that possibility is). Segeyaro made a commitment to the club and made a commitment to his team-mates.
There would be no issue had he not signed at the end of last year, there would have been less of an issue had he approached the club after signing and explained his position and asked for a move if the club could arrange it and arrange a suitable arrangement. There would have been less of an issue had, if that wasnt possible, Segeyaro had offered to fulfill his commitment for this season to give the club time to arrange a replacement. But he didnt do any of those. He walked out to the detriment of the club and his team-mates.
Though I'm sure the 20% post-brexit fall in the pound v the Aus Dollar has very little to do with the amount of antipodeans with homesickness we have seen this year.
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| Quote: William Eve "I think his issues were there all along.
WRT his arrival at Leeds during the summer, he couldn't have dragged his heels more if he'd tried.
He made the best of it while he was in Leeds and talked everything up about his stay, but none of it was ever convincing. He was trying to convince himself more like.
As soon as he returned home, he will have known for definite he wasn't coming back.
I'm not prepared to belittle him for his choices. Homesickness might appear trivial and an excuse to some, but it's real to those who suffer from it. Not dealing with stuff like that can lead to depression and other mental health issues.
Anyone who reckons he ought to man up and serve out his contract at Leeds are @rseholes IMO. I include Leeds Rhinos management among them.'"
In which case he should have manned up and not signed it in the first place. A decision that pretty much everyone would have respected.
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| Quote: Clearwing "In which case he should have manned up and not signed it in the first place. A decision that pretty much everyone would have respected.'"
Not everyone is equipped with the requisite [i'mantality'[/i, unlike yourself of course.
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| Quote: William Eve "I think his issues were there all along.
WRT his arrival at Leeds during the summer, he couldn't have dragged his heels more if he'd tried.
He made the best of it while he was in Leeds and talked everything up about his stay, but none of it was ever convincing. He was trying to convince himself more like.
As soon as he returned home, he will have known for definite he wasn't coming back.
I'm not prepared to belittle him for his choices. Homesickness might appear trivial and an excuse to some, but it's real to those who suffer from it. Not dealing with stuff like that can lead to depression and other mental health issues.
Anyone who reckons he ought to man up and serve out his contract at Leeds are @rseholes IMO. I include Leeds Rhinos management among them.'"
My son worked in Australia for four years and I can tell you homesickness is a very serious issue. His mother and I spent hundreds of hours on facetime, mobile phones etc, supporting him through that.
Segeyaro would not have realised how bad it was until he returned to Aus and then it would have hit him. Plenty on here have no idea and it shows in there abject dismissal of a serious problem.
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| Quote: William Eve "
Anyone who reckons he ought to man up and serve out his contract at Leeds are @rseholes IMO. I include Leeds Rhinos management among them.'"
come on William, you know peoples issues are related to how he signed the deal and talked it up.. he used the club and wiped his aris on the contract! i dont want any player at the club who doesn't want to be here, have always taken that stance, it should be an honour to wear the blue and amber.
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| Quote: Sal Paradise "My son worked in Australia for four years and I can tell you homesickness is a very serious issue. His mother and I spent hundreds of hours on facetime, mobile phones etc, supporting him through that.
Segeyaro would not have realised how bad it was until he returned to Aus and then it would have hit him. Plenty on here have no idea and it shows in there abject dismissal of a serious problem.'"
Having served in the Forces for over 12yrs i know full well how homesickness can develop & how it effects people.
What i will say is i completely disagree that he wouldn't have known until he got home also just watch the special feature that ch9 did with him for the footy show it was obvious then he was very much a "stay at home" type who suffered from it & he was only at Penrith then.
Like BF says just don't sign the deal & come clean no-one held a gun to his head nor is he still a naive kid.
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| Quote: Sal Paradise "My son worked in Australia for four years and I can tell you homesickness is a very serious issue. His mother and I spent hundreds of hours on facetime, mobile phones etc, supporting him through that.
Segeyaro would not have realised how bad it was until he returned to Aus and then it would have hit him. Plenty on here have no idea and it shows in there abject dismissal of a serious problem.'"
Indeed, and no amount of lovely weather, beach, surf, friends and socialising can compensate for homesickness either.
WRT perception of mental health issues, there's a very long way to go at all levels.
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| Quote: Biff Tannen "come on William, you know peoples issues are related to how he signed the deal and talked it up.. he used the club and wiped his aris on the contract!'"
I've no idea how he signed the deal... have you?
People are allowed to make mistakes, it's what makes them human.
People are also allowed to talk their situation up, it's often a coping mechanism.
People are also entitled to conclude they can't cope.
There was no wiping of any @ris on any contract either, apart from in the minds of fans who are bitter just because their club CEO and coach are bitter.
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| The Sharks only return to training following the Xmas break this coming Monday - I wouldn't be surprised to see a deal finalised in the coming days....
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| Quote: Superted "The Sharks only return to training following the Xmas break this coming Monday - I wouldn't be surprised to see a deal finalised in the coming days....'"
You'd hope so then everyone can move on.
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| Quote: William Eve "I've no idea how he signed the deal... have you?
People are allowed to make mistakes, it's what makes them human.
People are also allowed to talk their situation up, it's often a coping mechanism.
People are also entitled to conclude they can't cope.
There was no wiping of any @ris on any contract either, apart from in the minds of fans who are bitter just because their club CEO and coach are bitter.'"
kudos for turning this into a 'poor segeyaro held to ransom on the verge of a break down...' blah blah thread and 'bad bad CEO sheeple fans' in the space of one page, you do it so well
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| I see Southstander's very own Bash Brothers are at it again.
Take a day off lads, it'll do you good. All this negativity just can't be good for anyone.
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| Quote: Biff Tannen "kudos for turning this into a 'poor segeyaro held to ransom on the verge of a break down...' blah blah thread and 'bad bad CEO sheeple fans' in the space of one page, you do it so well
#PrayForChicko
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