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| Don’t think Jack will be getting MOM tonight, what on earth is going on at Hull?
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| Quote christopher="christopher"Don’t think Jack will be getting MOM tonight, what on earth is going on at Hull?'"
Lots of injuries. Lack of form, lack of confidence. Sound familiar?
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| Quote christopher="christopher"Don’t think Jack will be getting MOM tonight, what on earth is going on at Hull?'"
Content with continually picking up players that are not good enough for Leeds!
What do you expect?
Sutty will tighten things up for them....
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| Quote Shabino="Shabino"Lots of injuries. Lack of form, lack of confidence. Sound familiar?'"
Yes but difference is we haven’t been leaking that amount of points like Hull have, thats two 50 + point drubbings in 2 weeks
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| Quote christopher="christopher"Yes but difference is we haven’t been leaking that amount of points like Hull have, thats two 50 + point drubbings in 2 weeks'"
To be fair to them they’ve got 12 missing. Last week with 5 on debut they jagged a derby win. They will have been drained emotionally and Wigan’s pace in the back 3 is exceptional.
Plus some of Fc’s
Older players are not very good anymore. There are similarities with us but think we are better placed for next year at the moment.
Still ahead of us in the table in 5th which emphasises how many average to poor teams are in SL
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| Quote Sir Gregory ParsloeP="Sir Gregory ParsloeP"To be fair to them they’ve got 12 missing. Last week with 5 on debut they jagged a derby win. They will have been drained emotionally and Wigan’s pace in the back 3 is exceptional.
Plus some of Fc’s
Older players are not very good anymore. There are similarities with us but think we are better placed for next year at the moment.
Still ahead of us in the table in 5th which emphasises how many average to poor teams are in SL'"
We have to play Wigan next week. Already feeling queasy.
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| Quote ArthurClues="ArthurClues"We have to play Wigan next week. Already feeling queasy.'"
Me too. You can’t play any of the top 3 with 1 prop, no halves and plenty of other injuries and issues
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| We've been complaining about how the 'rebuild' is going on forever. We can't be always looking to two years to the future when Walker might be the real deal and Hardaker and Myler are gone. If we keep thinking that way we'll always be two years away.
The fact we're up to the cap tells us that some awful decisions have been made with respect to contracts, as even if everyone was fully fit we're way behind Sts. We need to strengthen where we're weak - notably prop - and if that means losing some players due to the cap sobeit. We'll have to do this more than perhaps we'd like because there are some players who must be on a lot more than they could get elsewhere and so won't move.
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| Quote Sal Paradise="Sal Paradise"JJB had a similar injury record but we didn't palm him off and that turned out OK. We might well have young players in the squad but the likes of Thompson, Donaldson, Dwyer, Hardaker etc are getting picked now most weeks. How many young players are actually getting picked especially in the backs? Newman is suspended so we play Martin in the centre - hardly giving a young player a chance?'"
I understand the comparison with JJB, but they aren't like-for-like. JJB's game wasn't based on speed. His injuries, if I remember correctly, we're mainly to his legs. But it didn't have a huge impact on his strengths of work rate and power. Walker's game is based on speed and elusiveness. The injuries are more likely to have impacted on this. Also, the club hasn't just palmed Walker off. They've supported him through his injuries, as they should, and sent him out on loan at a time when he isn't playing for us.
Personally, I want Leeds to be back at the top challenging for trophies. A part of doing that is having a full back who can exploit broken fields and link play. For me, Walker isn't that player. The sentiment of him being one of our own shouldn't overrule what's best for the team to progress
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| Quote D4mo78="D4mo78"I understand the comparison with JJB, but they aren't like-for-like. JJB's game wasn't based on speed. His injuries, if I remember correctly, we're mainly to his legs. But it didn't have a huge impact on his strengths of work rate and power. Walker's game is based on speed and elusiveness. The injuries are more likely to have impacted on this. Also, the club hasn't just palmed Walker off. They've supported him through his injuries, as they should, and sent him out on loan at a time when he isn't playing for us.
Personally, I want Leeds to be back at the top challenging for trophies. A part of doing that is having a full back who can exploit broken fields and link play. For me, Walker isn't that player. The sentiment of him being one of our own shouldn't overrule what's best for the team to progress'"
Also Everyone says that about JJB but most of his injuries were when he was academy A team player, once he broke through into first team he was pretty consistently injury free bar obe bad one towards the end of his career.
Walker is far more injury prone than JJB ever was.
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| Also Walker's injuries have happened after he had already established himself as our first choice full back and got a contract upgrade. He has become a more expensive bit of salary cap than JJB was at that stage of his career.
I don't think anyone wants to lose Walker if it were possible to keep him but the salary cap makes managing a squad so difficult that his retention given his injury record is sadly really difficult now.
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| Quote The Ghost of '99="The Ghost of '99"Also Walker's injuries have happened after he had already established himself as our first choice full back and got a contract upgrade. He has become a more expensive bit of salary cap than JJB was at that stage of his career.
I don't think anyone wants to lose Walker if it were possible to keep him but the salary cap makes managing a squad so difficult that his retention given his injury record is sadly really difficult now.'"
I’d suspect he’s not even above the mid earners in the squad in terms of salary. One thing that this does bring to light, though, is how awful our recruitment is. We now have 3 full back in the squad. We’ve been consistently getting things wrong for approaching ten years.
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