No EGP available.

Flower doesn't have EGP available.

Hohaia - who has been charged with Grade B striking with the forearm - does have EGP if he wants to use it.

Interestingly, the Grade F guidelines also include the option of a time-based suspension. That would prevent Wales's European Championship campaign or the WCC game counting against his ban, by imposing a set number of weeks/months.

Hohaia will presumably argue that he's already missed one game through being KO'd in the 2nd minute?
With EGP would that mean he's served his ban?

I'd be disappointed if the RFL took what happened to him in the aftermath into account.

He went after Flower with a forearm to the head after some provocation. It's only the fact he couldn't knock the skin off a rice pudding that prevented him from doing some damage of his own.

If he uses the EGP, give him two games so he serves one.

In a normal match with that forearm to the face, and subsequent first punch from Flower. You would have seen no charges after the game, and a sin bin for Flower in the match it's self.

The punch after is the issue, and should have been the only issue that the RFL dealt with, and should have been handled outside the normal guidelines, as the offence is not something we have seen before.

No need to take it outside the usual guidelines.

By grading it at Grade F, the RFL have given themselves carte blanche to impose whatever suspension they think fit.

Anyone remember what John Dalgreen got for kicking a grounded player in the head back in the 80s? Was the Danny Williams king hit one in the NRL 14 games?

Very much at the borders of my memory but wasn't the Dalgreen sine die for shoving a match official? There was a kicking incident in a test match between him and Les Boyd, but that was something separate.

The only sine die I can remember for foul play in the pro game was Gary Charlton, but that was eventually lifted.

IIRC Newton got 10 for his offences on Long & Gilmour. Personally I think about 12-15 games would be about right.

I thought Dalgreen was kicked by Les Boyd?

Quote: craigizzard "Very much at the borders of my memory but wasn't the Dalgreen sine die for shoving a match official? There was a kicking incident in a test match between him and Les Boyd, but that was something separate. The only sine die I can remember for foul play in the pro game was Gary Charlton, but that was eventually lifted.'" Details here: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic ... SC-eNcYvGE Dalgreen pushed Gerry Kershaw after being sent off for stamping.

Quote: craigizzard "Very much at the borders of my memory but wasn't the Dalgreen sine die for shoving a match official? There was a kicking incident in a test match between him and Les Boyd, but that was something separate. The only sine die I can remember for foul play in the pro game was Gary Charlton, but that was eventually lifted.'" Details here: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic ... SC-eNcYvGE Dalgreen pushed Gerry Kershaw after being sent off for stamping.

Just mentioned elsewhere that Moriarty on Waddell at Headingley in the early 90s was prob the worst I've seen.

What suspension did he get tvoc?

That was unpleasant.

He probably had to get a round in after the game as punishment.

#goodolddays

Quote: Bullseye "Just mentioned elsewhere that Moriarty on Waddell at Headingley in the early 90s was prob the worst I've seen. What suspension did he get tvoc?'" Eight games m.rlfans.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=16852804

Quote: Bullseye "Just mentioned elsewhere that Moriarty on Waddell at Headingley in the early 90s was prob the worst I've seen. What suspension did he get tvoc?'" Eight games m.rlfans.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=16852804

I agree. Half a season on the sidelines sounds about right.Stick in some work in the community, coaching the youngsters etc....

I'd probably say Cassidy on Morley was worse than Moriarty on Waddell, if only for the extra effort it took Cassidy to get to head height...