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Seriously, how many second rowers play fullback in the game, like ever?

Sutcliffe is 14 Kg heavier than he was two years ago, 8kg of that in this preseason. This was for him to play backrow as his position going forward.

What he did two years ago is a completley different player to what we have to utilise now. He does not have the speed of movement to handle grubber kicks, or breaks from players changing direction.

He will however offer a far better option for linking and passing. But that isn't the key role of the fullback.

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Quote: Gotcha "Seriously, how many second rowers play fullback in the game, like ever?

Sutcliffe is 14 Kg heavier than he was two years ago, 8kg of that in this preseason. This was for him to play backrow as his position going forward.

What he did two years ago is a completley different player to what we have to utilise now. He does not have the speed of movement to handle grubber kicks, or breaks from players changing direction.

He will however offer a far better option for linking and passing. But that isn't the key role of the fullback.'"
I agree Sutcliffe at fullback is not ideal but what are the Alternatives? If Myler plays there ( as seems Agars likely choice) we have no interchange hooker. Handley didn't look convincing there preseason. Not sure who maybe available from the Academy.
He may well have been built up with the intention of playing 2nd row but spent all preseason and the 1st game of the season at centre.

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Quote: The Magic Rat "I agree Sutcliffe at fullback is not ideal but what are the Alternatives?'"



This I 100% agree with you on. That is the problem in the balance of the squad we went with.

Personally, and I still don't like it due to changing things, I would go with Newman at Fullback and Alex or Liam Sutcliffe at Centre. But don't think that will happen.

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Liam Sutcliffe is absolutely crap.

How long has he played for us now? 7/8 years?

The only highlights I can think of in that time are:

1) A kick (or 2) to Handley away at Saints. Handley got a hatrick.
2) His kicks against Barrow in the cup - was it Barrow? 16 from 16 goals?
3) His try v Hull in the 2017 semi

What am I missing? I just don't get why he's still a Leeds player

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After that saints game I thought Sutcliffe looked like he would become a great player for us. Very intelligent play and great kicks looked like had loads of potential. Now I watch him and all he does is run straight forward like the most basic of forwards.

What happened?

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Myler is playing there tonight

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Does that mean McLelland on the bench?

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Quote: rugbyleague88 "Does that mean McLelland on the bench?'"



I'd like to think so

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I reckon Greenwood in for Walker will be the only change to the 17.

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Quote: rugbyleague88 "Does that mean McLelland on the bench?'"


Im not sure. I know Holroyd isnt on the bench tho and no Greenwood again.

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Quote: christopher "I'd like to think so'"


I suspect it will be Sutcliffe to cover full back, centre, half back and 2nd row and Cameron Smith / Myler covering hooker.

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Quote: tomlufc "After that saints game I thought Sutcliffe looked like he would become a great player for us. Very intelligent play and great kicks looked like had loads of potential. Now I watch him and all he does is run straight forward like the most basic of forwards.

What happened?'"



He was also actually very good in the centre position at the back end of 2017 when we won the GF, and then in 2018 came up with some important plays in the middle 8s.

Sutcliffe is a good player the problem he has had is he has never been payed in one position so never had chance to cement and learn that position.

His best position for us now is SR on the bench IMO, because of his utility value. However I don't think bar injuries he's good enough to make the 17 week in week out.

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On another note, apparently there is an extended interview with Brian Mac on Sky before the game about what happened at Leeds, that will be interesting, from the clip Ive seen he seemed to be under the impression there wasn't actually anything wrong with the team or set up but that could be just a short clip taken out of context

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Quote: christopher "On another note, apparently there is an extended interview with Brian Mac on Sky before the game about what happened at Leeds, that will be interesting, from the clip Ive seen he seemed to be under the impression there wasn't actually anything wrong with the team or set up but that could be just a short clip taken out of context'"
There's a good interview with Cuthbertson in Love Rugby League giving an insight to McDermott being told to retire by Furner but told by Sinfield to dig in and fight for his position who he said had his back.

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Quote: fanstanningley "There's a good interview with Cuthbertson in Love Rugby League giving an insight to McDermott being told to retire by Furner but told by Sinfield to dig in and fight for his position who he said had his back.'"



Interesting and to be fair Sinfield was correct, Cuthbertson has been doing a great job since Agar came on board

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