Sorry, have I done what?

I am too...Mrs McDermott says so and she knows best.

Paid the bet - we both know Leeds will not be making the GF this season

What bet's this then?

We had a bet that I said Leeds would not make the GF - you accepted based on your belief they would.

You mean rlthis threadrl where you wanted me to bet that Leeds would make the grand final? The same thread where I politely declined your offer as I wasn't sure we'd even make the top 4 but was willing to risk it betting on that, just to keep things interesting. Unfortunately you never replied so unless there's a discussion i've forgotten about then there's no bet.

See, you like to claim on here (and you've done so in this very thread) that i'm some kind of club "apologist" who thinks that Leeds will win every game and every trophy yet the above link proves that not to be the case doesn't it? You also like to pretend that you're a "realist" but that's also just been blown out of the water by your ridiculous bet offer of Leeds making the GF and your even sillier bet last year that Leeds wouldn't even make the top 4.

What's actually true is that, unlike yourself, I have a pretty balanced and unclouded view and over the last 2 seasons have got it a lot more right than you have done. I've probably got it more right than you for many years actually, especially if your attitude to the Leeds club has always been like it currently is.

Have a nice day.

I offered you a bet you took it so have the good grace to pay up - don't back out now!! You chased me loads to give you proof that I had paid too - suggesting rather smuggly that I wouldn't/wasn't going to pay - you are a hypocrite.

Where did I ever say that you think Leeds will win every game? I have never said and if you can prove it fill your boots

Lots of Leeds fans predictions got a lucky break by one piece of genius by McGuire at Huddersfield without that they wouldn't have won he LL shield and it would have been tough to get to OT from third.

What I said was you will seldom criticise the club that you will defend their position to the hilt - that is your prerogative. Is it balanced? I would suggest bottom of the league, least points scored, most points conceded, out of the CC at the first hurdle and thrashed in the WCC is pretty indefensible - these are the irrefutable facts that I base my opinion.

Have a nice day!!

Sal and I have vehemently disagreed on many many things on here. In fact we disagree on most things, usually.

But his comments about how turgid last Friday's game was I wholeheartedly agree with. Just a dreadful game of rugby league by two dreadful teams.

I can find positives. We won. We tackled hard in defence without being really tested. Singleton's hit on Carney almost made it worth watching the other putrid 79 mins and 59 seconds.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion. If they enjoyed that game, good for them. Sometime I find it satisfying to lay a really big turd. I guess that is analogous for what some took out of Friday's game.

G! Now I have to step in here. Opinions aside, I have quite a high pressure job, a long commute. I have 3 kids and the token nagging wife.

Having a $hit is something I look forward to. It's one of the few moments in life where I genuinely have a moment to myself!

A good $hit should never be underrated.

Do you even support Leeds?
You sound like you would rather we had lost just so you would be proven right

I find it funny when people keep saying we/McDermott were lucky simply because one of his player came up with a great play to win us a game.....you could say that about pretty much any coach who has won trophies. (How would Leeds/Tony Smith have fared from 3rd in 2007 had Jordan Tansey's Magic weekend try not been given?). Also don't notice anyone saying how we were unlucky not to have the LLS wrapped up before that game took place considering McGuire's 'obstruction' try at the DW vs Wigan was wrongly ruled out and cost us the game and a 4 point swing between us and Wigan.

Great viewing wasn't it? I think that hit is still echoing round Headingley now.

Massive contact. Carney rode it well. Kept driving and played the ball. Then spent the next 5 minutes trying to get back to his feet (he gave it about half a dozen attempts, then left the field aided by trainers etc. He came back on for the 2nd half). Tough old game.

Sal as you are the one alleging a bet was made I believe the onus is on you to provide proof as Loiner has shown evidence that your offer was refused. So a bit premature to start the name calling. Also the fact that he had to chase "you loads" last year to pay up is rather an admission on your part to a lack of enthusiasm to settle the bet.