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Quote: tad rhino "I missed the first 20 as I was at elland road but that was my thought too. we are much faster. more fluent, without smith'"

I wonder if he might stick with Frawley as skipper and go with Smith off the bench next week. Still think Smith can play well under Arthur, but in order to do so, he'll have to simplify and speed up his game.

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Well well well didn’t see that coming. BA starting to make a difference imo. I’d keep Frawley as captain

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Smith should be interchange prop from now and shouldn’t be first receiver. I’m not convinced JOC is the long them answer at 13 but it was delightful to have some pace there and to seen Frawley and Croft linking up at first/second receiver.

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I don`t think BA will leave Smith out so should play him at prop where he can hold on to the ball and maybe get the odd pass out to the supporting player.

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Happy with Frawley as captain. I thought Arthur would warm to him when he came in (hence my comment a few weeks back about Arthur making some unpopular decisions - remember most people on here wanted to bin Frawley after a handful of games, unjustly IMO). Otherwise, I thought Miller was the pick of our antipodean signings from this season, followed by Croft. Some nice touches from 'Mommers/Momster' in attack and defence but a bit more hit and miss this week.

I agree with Tad and others that we seem to look more fluent without Cam Smith on the field, and we coped well without the 40-60 tackles he puts in every week. O'Connor seems to bring more energy and intensity, even though I worry he's too small for 13.

Despite some ill discipline early in the game I thought Lisone actually did well as our most senior prop (and I've not been a fan of his this season). Littlewood seems to have a bit more size about him than some of our other forwards which is welcome.

I don't get why Harry Smith is an England player, he's like a dirty version of Paul Deacon... Put Frawley behind that Wigan pack and he'd look even better (after all, Frawley can tackle).

Only downer was seeing Rhyse Martin play so well, we will miss him a lot.

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Quote: christopher "There’s some on here that having been giving Okedski stick, i think we’ll find out how much we need him on Saturday, no other of our props constantly make over 100metres or play as many minutes.'"


Perhaps we don't him as much as you suggest icon_biggrin.gif

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Quote: Zoo Zoo Boom "Perhaps we don't him as much as you suggest
Sangare 5 carries for 33 yards and 16 tackles so I think Miks place is safe when hes fit!
Our smaller forwards were outstanding suggesting if we can add quality in the prop rotacion and keep Arthur there's hope for the future.

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Quote: Exeter Rhino "
I don't get why Harry Smith is an England player, he's like a dirty version of Paul Deacon... Put Frawley behind that Wigan pack and he'd look even better (after all, Frawley can tackle).'"

He's not even a SL player. An excellent kicker from hand, when given the time, but offers absolutely nothing otherwise. A glance at the HB stats show it. A poor passer, can't take on the line, poor tackler, no pace to support a break, a cowardly, nasty side. I know what you mean about Deacon, but I think he's a poor version of Matty Smith, and he was gash. Wigan are lost without French in attack and diverting defenders. Anybody would think an ex-Wigan player and coach picked the team.
And I thought the same about Frawley.

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Quote: tad rhino "I know wigan played on Tuesday but, what a difference a quality coach can make'"

Spot on. Peet, who I think comes across as a fantastic human being, said they knew what was coming up & prepared for it. Regarding the coach, to me it is all about the coach. Look at HKR, Salford, Leigh - the difference in them individually & collectively with a good coach. Not the best squads, but organised, disciplined, fit, motivated. Compare to Hudds, who have frittered away a fortune of Ken's money, & Saints under Wellens c/w under Wolfe.

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Most enjoyable game in a long time. Listening to Arthur's presser he's clearly challenging individuals to improve in specific areas, Bentley's temperament, Miller's control etc, most seem to be responding though I think his his work is cut out with Sangare. Would like to see more of Littlewood, we're still kicking from out own 30-40 far too often.

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Wonderful performance, the improvement since BA took over is remarkable, just shows what an abject failure Rohan smith was. Dont usually see a Wigan side fold under pressure, but that’s what we witnessed yesterday. Always like Peets after match comments, he always gives a fair and honest appraisal. It’s certainly turning out to be an interesting end of season top of the table battle. Hopefully next season we will be involved. Finally what a class act Martin is never put a foot wrong all afternoon. Not many forwards could replicate his involvement in the Newman try.

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Wonderful performance, the improvement since BA took over is remarkable, just shows what an abject failure Rohan smith was. Dont usually see a Wigan side fold under pressure, but that’s what we witnessed yesterday. Always like Peets after match comments, he always gives a fair and honest appraisal. It’s certainly turning out to be an interesting end of season top of the table battle. Hopefully next season we will be involved. Finally what a class act Martin is never put a foot wrong all afternoon. Not many forwards could replicate his involvement in the Newman try.

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Just seen BAs post match presser. Very impressive, simple, clear messages to rhe players which appear very achievable on a game by game basis, and great communication to fans etc. Players seem genuinely bought in to what he's all about. If we can get him to stay for a couple of.years I suspect we'll be in a completely different place.

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So the question has to be - Should we go with the same team again next week?

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