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What's Jonah Lomu up to these days?

Amateur Bodybuilding.

Maybe it wont be long before the Vainakolo to Leeds thread resurfaces???

Lee played for Wasps reserves tonight.

Heard t'other day that Gary Hetherington forgot to tick that box.

My understanding is that any loan deal has a recall clause. Could be wrong though.

That's not true, it's got to be specific to the agreement. Monthly loans automatically have recall's in, which after the 1st month allow you to recall.

But this is a season long loan, and I questioned that one on this board before the start of the season. If Leeds put the clause in then it will be fine.

You are spot on and my suspicion is that BJB can't be recalled immediately but that we may have to give notice to Quins, after all, as you say, it is a season long loan and if was Quins I would want to notice if you were taking away a player I was hoping to have all season. If I am taking a player on a short term loan things are a little different, but longer term I need some security or time to replace the player.

I think this is why BJB has not been recalled because by the time he gets here he may not be required for long, if not at all.

Well yes, but do you know what, it would not surprise me if they did not actually know that clause was in the operational rules! I love constitutions and rules, but I am sad, but they RFL Operational Rules are huge and it would be easy to miss!

I agree with G1's alternative definition of the clause as well BUT any challenge would assume that a club has asked the RFL board to consider changing a player status under the rules and they have done so successfully and therefore some level of precedent has been set. If they have not changed anybody's status as yet or it is has only ever been used around loan players on loan with other RL clubs, then any argument may fall flat.

Maybe Leeds' primary concern on Jones-Bishop is simply his long term development. This could be an important season for him to establish himself as a SL standard full-back (with Leeds hoping to reap the benefits of that next year and beyond).

I've no doubt from a development viewpoint he's better off having a full year as first choice FB at quins than having a handful of games as "1st choice outside back utility man" at Leeds.

I just don't think BJB offers any utility value. It's not a difficult concept to get your head around. Some players are excellent in one position whilst others offer great utility value.

If Webb were out for the season I suspect BJB would be recalled immediately.

I'm sure if you asked nicely we could lend you Karl Pryce for a bit

I have no difficulty with the concept only in whether it applies in this case.

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existing quota limitations. So far that has not happened and, if he doesn't succeed by the end of the month, we will have to release him. Our overseas quota positions are already filled by Darryl Millard, Ben Jeffries, Glenn Morrison, Shane Tronc and Sam Obst, so we do not have any more places available. There are no problems between the club and James as we both knew what was required for him to remain with the club. We would like to keep James but, if he can't get his passport, then the matter is out of our hands."[/i

That is another article that infers that the overseas quota is limited to five in 2010, yet the SL website says six.

Quote: G1 "Well yes, but do you know what, it would not surprise me if they did not actually know that clause was in the operational rules! I love constitutions and rules, but I am sad, but they RFL Operational Rules are huge and it would be easy to miss!'"

The Wakefield squad in 2010 still contains (in addition the the five named above) Michael Korkidas, Jason Demetriou and Tevita Leo-Latu. You would then have to assume some or all of those have been exempted under the current rules, so I think it's highly unlikely that Wakefield were not aware of the existence of the clause.